Stranger in store threatened to call cops because of my dog

My Yorkie hates the car. To her it’s the thing that takes her to the bad places. The vet, the groomer and the horrors of the dog park. She never ceases barking and whining the whole time. And I don’t live close to anywhere.

We found a doggie (Jack, the BEST DOG IN THE WORLD) many years ago, and he was disinclined to be left at home alone too. We tried it twice, and had door jambs ripped away, floors clawed down to the bearers, so figured it was easier to just take him EVERYWHERE. Jack never wanted to leave my side.

He loved the car. Would jump in the front seat…then a quick, ‘Over the back, Jack’ would see him in the rear part of my station wagon, with his own dicky-seat, and his very own window. I had to make sure that the car was parked in either an underground carpark or under very shady trees…but Jack had is own window and didn’t care too much anyway. If it was REALLY hot, then Jack would get tied up under a tree with a big bucket of water next to where I was working on any given day.

Jack just wanted to be near his people. I miss Jack, even 20 years later.

If you have to ask that kind of question, you shouldn’t have a dog.

Why not? As I explained in my post above, you can certainly leave dogs in cars under certain conditions. And I live in AUSTRALIA where temps regularly rise over 35c in the summer.

Sooooo…
The dog FREAK OUT if you leave her in a room, but is FINE with being locked in a car while you walk away?
Wow, that sure is one highly specific separation anxiety she has.

If you cannot answer that question then you should not be offering advice … or owning a dog.

Our sheriff’s department put out a poster that said:

Then under a picture of a turkey in a roaster:

For those who lack any critical thinking skills.

By the way, the high temperature is expected to be 42°C today. That’s 108°F to us Statesiders.

Because the only time she goes in the car it’s too bad places she associates the car with bad. Take her for trips in the car that aren’t bad. To a (non-dog) park for a walk. To the pet store (where pets are welcome inside the store), to a relatives, or even just a drive around & then back home.

I get that you said “dog in distress”, but my concern is this situation could happen with my dog.

I have a car that can be locked without the keys being in it and left running. So the air conditioner is on. It is also a hybrid, so sometimes the engine stops, even though the air conditioner is on. I leave my dog in this car when I go grocery shopping and such.

Yet my concern is that someone comes across my comfortably sleeping dog and decides something needs to be done like breaking a window. I would certainly sue that person, if I could find them, for a fairly expensive repair, and hope the police would press charges.

I agree that it’s unwise to leave a dog in a car for any extended period at 98 degrees.

But you stated that you wouldn’t leave a dog in a car for even a minute at 70 degrees. Why not? What’s not safe about that?

Was that just hyperbole?

I can’t seem to find a lot of hard statistics on pet heatstroke deaths, probably because there’s no database to track them, but here is an article stating that at least a dozen K-9 police dog deaths were from heatstroke in 2016. If well-trained police officers with elaborate safety systems in their cars can still manage to have their animals die on them, I can only imagine what the extrapolation is to the general populace.

Most of the heatstroke death numbers are focused on children, as that’s more tragic. Dozens of children die every year from being left in hot cars in the USA alone. I imagine animal deaths are many more than that.

Personally I would never take the chance and leave an animal in a car unattended. I think people who are confident that their pet will always be okay without them are overconfident and maybe even reckless. There is always the chance that your air conditioning will fail.

From what I’ve seen lately, that would only work if you were black and she were white. In that case, sure, whip out your cellphone and it will make national news the next day as “leaving your dog in a car while black.”

Please describe the totally obvious to you terrible catastrophe that will befall a dog left in a car in 70 degree weather for one minute that I’m somehow not getting.

For what it’s worth, I don’t have a dog, but I have a human child, and I have no qualms about leaving him in the car at 70 degrees for one minute. He managed to survive his infancy despite taking plenty of naps in the car at 70 degrees. 70 degrees being, you know, basically the ideal temperature for human comfort that we regularly expend great effort to raise or lower the ambient temperature to.

Good grief.

I just looked at the heatstroke deaths of children in 2017. A child died after being left in a car for a few hours on a 70 degree day the last day in October. At such a low temperature still resulting in death, I simply would never take a chance on animals in cars either. I’m not talking about a mere “minute”, literally, but so many of these accidents are someone thinking they will only be gone “a minute” and then something happens and they forget. It’s almost always a case of some little forgetful mistake snowballing into a horrible death. People are confident that they will never forget little Timmy or Rover in the backseat, and yet they do, and they die by the dozens every year.

Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

So this isn’t actual “statistics”, but this is the shelter where I have volunteered for many years, and I remember this last year. One week alone 6 dogs were brought in “for disposal” after being left to die in hot cars. How many more were in distress, but never reported? How many were in distress, but their owner came back in time? How many more died, but the owners buried them in the back yard or took them elsewhere for disposal? We can’t know for sure.

I have been there when our ACO’s have brought dogs with heat stroke back to the shelter after rescuing them from hot cars and no owner came back. It’s heartbreaking to see them in distress.

Why risk it under any circumstances?

One minute? No Problem.

But the Ops shopping trip took longer than a minute.
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DSeids** link/cite shows that even at 70 can get up up to 117.

and as FloatyGimpy pointed out, it is very easy for a quick trip to turn longer.

Good grief, yourself.

https://www.avma.org/public/PetCare/Pages/pets-in-vehicles.aspx?mode=full

Did… you not read the thing that you wrote that I originally responded to?

Here it is again.

Still not understanding why.

In a minute, the temperature might reach as high as 72 degrees!

Either you don’t understand “common expressions” or you’re being deliberately obtuse. It’s very common for people to use the phrase “not even for a minute” to mean they wouldn’t do it ever.

I vote the latter.