I suppose I’m a fool then because I think this may be one of the dumbest things I may see all year, and it’s only January!
How can a white person be racist against themselves? Is this even possible?
I suppose I could not want myself to get a job, and deny myself an education or admission to a country club.
God, I hate myself now.
Here’s a great idea for a study followup: have the researchers go to the Google ad site that comes up with this thread and poll the “1000s of Beautiful Republican Singles” about their racial attitudes (I would volunteer to do this, only I can’t bring myself to click on the link).
As to results of a valid non-online survey, do any exist that compare racist attitudes among Democratic and Republican voters? Be interesting to find out if any statistically significant differences exist.
There is no anti-white racism among white liberals and “radicals.” You are imagining things.
How about coughing up a cite there, Sparky. Why don’t you produce some evidence for a single white liberal being “racist towards white men” (and why only men? If they’re really so racist then why don’t they hate white women too?)
At the risk of having you think me a fool, LP, I really don’t understand how you figure that.
Considering that whites are the socially dominant group in American culture, and have always been, and have always been in Anglophone and European cultures in general, how could you possibly produce a significant amount of “anti-white racism” in any group of white people within this culture?
I’m not talking about ideological criticisms of white people; I’m talking about genuinely racist psychological biases, such as the OP’s linked study purported to test with, e.g., “the speed of people’s associations between black or white faces and positive or negative words”. How on earth would you produce that kind of psychological conditioning against members of the socially dominant group, among members of the socially dominant group?
This may be the online survey site they’re talking about. It’s a pretty interesting site to play around on.
Daniel
Oh, I don’t know. I’ve known one or two hand-wringers in my time. Their regret for being white was exceeded only by their guilt for being born.
LP may be thinking of the Susan Sontag comment that “the white race is the cancer of human history”.
Whether a “statistically significant” number of white liberals/radicals on this board or in American society at large agree with her is another matter.
Did they say “I hate white people?” Did they say “I regret being born?”
I find these kinds of projections to be demeaning and hostile and not exactly scientific.
Once again, I think this is conflating ideology with actual prejudice. Susan Sontag, who is white, may say nasty things about the role white people have played in history. But do you seriously think that if you gave her a psychological-response test of the sort described in the OP, she would register instinctively negative reactions to pictures of white faces?
I wanted to start a thread about this subject earlier but I didn’t because I knew people would say that it was about Republicans being more likely to be racist. That’s not what the study was about. The study was about interpretive bias among voters of BOTH PARTIES. The author of the article for the Washington Post displayed his bias for the audience by focusing more on what it said about Republican bias than any other issue involved in the study.
When the study itself is published maybe we’ll discuss what it’s actually about, which is partisan bias, rather than focusing on the unfortunate display of bias on part of the journalist(or his editors) who wrote this article.
Erek
Who cares about causality? The OP is just trying to establish whether there is a correlation. It doesn’t posit that being Republican causes racism, or vice-versa, only that they are more racist than the population at large.
Which I think is true, but this study, as others have stated, seems flawed.
That was one of the stupidenst test I’ve ever taken. It was so easy it was ridiculous. And I love the questionaire afterwards (I did the light skin/dark skin test). There was no option for “I don’t prefer either light or dark skin people”. Utter BS.
I don’t think we can know, any more than we can be certain that “ideology” and “prejudice” do not overlap to any significant degree.
Can you think of any ideologues in history who have confidently asserted that a particular ethnic or racial group has had an evil impact on society?
It looks like it - the name ‘Brian Nosek’ is on the ‘background info’ page.
Speaking of utter BS, I love how folks are attacking the “scientificness” of this study, when the article has very little information on the methods used in the study.
Any real scientists here that know exactly all the methodology used in this study, and can prove the validity/invalidity of it?
Hint: That information isn’t in the Post article.
The data collection methods, which are mentioned in the article, make it not valid.
Why? Do you have a cite that proves that online surveys are invalid? Plus, that wasn’t the sole method of data collection.
So… if you figured out the 1% of Americans who were most racist against blacks, and asked those people who they voted for in the past election, do you think that it would be pretty evenly split between Bush and Kerry? Or do you think (as this study, and common knowledge, suggest) that the preponderence of them voted for Bush?
Isn’t it just possible that, regardless of what (if any) deeper meaning it implies, this study is basically correct?
Yes, that’s the one. I was just coming in here to ask how many people here have actually taken the test and post the link, but you beat me to it. I’ve taken it a couple of times before with varying results. Today it determined; “Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Black American compared to White American,” whatever that means. After you’re done with the test, it asks you to rank yourself as to how you think you feel, I guess so it can either confirm that your conscious and your subconcious reactions are the same, or to prove you don’t really feel the way you claim to. It then asks for your demographic data, including your zip code, which I’m sure is what they used to draw their conclusions about test-takers and voting habits.
Here’s more info on the scientists who created this test.