Oh. My. God. yawn. Wake me when smoking does a drive by.
People smoke because “they are thinking for themselves”? Is that how it happened with you? Did you actually think to yourself,“Smoke makes me cough, but I bet that if I inhale it directly, it should actually taste pretty darn good!”?
Well, yes. Douche.
What if I wake you when smoking kills someone again?
Oops! Wakies!!
There’s another one-no nappy time for you yet.
Or when old age/heart disease/cancer/aids/homicide, etc. Get over your self-important self. It ain’t all about you, mate.
You are the one that claimed that people smoke because they are thinking for themselves. You deny that millions of advertising dollars and the fact that the crap is addictive will cause kids to take up the habit, but claim that telling them how bad it is will cause them to take up the habit.
If I might ask, who the hell taught you how to “think for yourself”?
Out of idle curiosity, does anyone know if the number of teenage smokers has increased or decreased in the past couple of decades or so? Somehow I thought the “smoking as a form of rebellion against authority” trend had passed. Perhaps I’m being naive.
I remember being bombarded with anti-smoking campaigns when I was in elementary school (early 90s). Some kind of “We are the Smoke-Free class of 2000” theme. It made a huge impression on me at the time - I sorely tested my dad’s patience by ragging on him to quit smoking, asking him if he wanted to make orphans out of us. The irony here would be that he did quit smoking eventually, while I picked up the filthy habit in college.
More people die from smoking than from drive-by shootings.
And you’re just looking out for the kids, right? :rolleyes:
Smoking tastes good. It feels good, after a few hours between each cig. Waking up in the morning, having a shower and sitting outside and enjoying the morning sun, coffee and a cig feels great. I know all about the dangers of tobacco, I have a grandfather who’s smoked since he’s 14 (he’s now 82) and one who died from lung cancer. I’ve seen the images real-time, so to speak. The day I stop enjoying it is the day I’ll cave in to peer pressure and quit.
So, in other words, fuck you right back 
May the radiation from your new iPhone turn your balls to cinders and your old drugs turn your intestines to jelly 
Where are they getting them? How are they paying for them? I mean, when I started smoking cigs were .50 a pack. Now they are over three dollars. And my husband frequently gets carded for smokes and he is 50 years old (of course he doesn’t look 50, but he doesn’t look 17 either). I know a few parents that will give an underage kid of theirs a beer or a wine cooler on occasion (over 16 year olds) but no way in hell they would give their kid a cigarette!
So you’ll stop when it quits being addictive all on it’s own, right? That’s the reason you “enjoy” it, you know.
Yeah, look at the effect of 40 a day on this ugly old trout.
I wouldn’t mind a cite for that “40 a day” claim, and a little info about how long she’s been smoking.
Where do you get it that kids smoke because they think it’s rebelious? Are you sure? It could be, but I’m certainly not sure. When I on occasion confront a teen about his/her smoking the most common reaction is defensiveness. My first words to them are usually in the form of a question. Perhaps the very question I asked in the OP. I don’t yell, I ask in a reasonable tone. I put it as a real question, which it is.
Check out TheFury’s post. Does that sound rebellious to you?
I’d lay the blame more to peer pressure and idol worship, but I really don’t know for sure. And it doesn’t help that some the hip “20 something” crowd smokes.
One thing I do know, it’s pretty fucking stupid. If you don’t believe me, ask most other kids in their age group.
Out of curiosity, were you ever a smoker?
People have asked me why I haven’t quit, especially when they find out I smoke so little. (Last winter I was staying with a relative who didn’t know I smoked, so I had to be sneaky - I was there for a month and smoked less than half a pack during my time there.) This may sound odd, but I don’t think I’m going to quit until I have some kind of specific motivation to do so (like if I was trying to get pregnant). And yes, I know the fact that smoking is killing me inside should be more than enough. Yet it fails to make much of an impression on me. We all have our irrational vices, I suppose.
See!!! You call that rebellion?
I call that fucking stupid. And Gukumatz, in a quiet and honest moment while we have a coffee together, just might agree with me.
Especially if he could see what 35+ years of smoking has done to my balls. 
But he’ll still smoke.
Right, my friend?
'Tisn’t, y’know. Nicotine is a fabulous drug. It makes you feel good, and more alert and capable, (rather than less aware and lethargic) and to some extent (some studies show) the brain on nicotine actually functions better, even though the rest of the body may suffer. Nuclear plant workers accept various partly-known risks in return for known benefits, and they’re not children.
Sure, stupid fucking kids. But kids and adults are stupid in a whole lot of ways – why pick on the one that gives a whole lot of second chances to get smart?
Don’t get me wrong – I still think of smoking as “the intelligence test I got wrong 20 times every day, despite knowing the answer.” However…there are a whole lot of bad decisions that, like starting an addictive habit, are difficult to reverse. And behavior is seldom improved by reshaping the argument into a moral issue. Czarcasm, you’re providing a great example of someone who knows what’s right and, by mistaking truth for morality, can drive everyone s/he encounters away from the path you wish people would follow. By the way, nicotine is a stimulant, and provides positive feedback long before withdrawal kicks in. That’s a fact, not a moral judgment. So keep up with the good fight, but if you’re serious about it, consider changing your tactics.
http://smokingsides.com/asfs/M/Moss.html
Scroll down for Kate Moss.
I don’t know how reliable the sources are, but there are several of them, at any rate.
If you google “kate moss smoking” there are articles commenting on how they are starting to affect her looks. If those cites are even half-true, it’s amazing how she’s managed to keep them thus far. Speaking from personal experience, smoking has had little effect on my skin/teeth/etc, but I’ve only been smoking for 3-4 years and half-a-pack is the most I’ll smoke on my worst days. (I know, I should probably quite while I’m ahead.)