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I remember being bombarded with anti-smoking campaigns when I was in elementary school (early 90s). Some kind of “We are the Smoke-Free class of 2000” theme.
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This is what the teens who take up smoking are rebelling against.
[QUOTE=mangeorge]
On the second page of the first linked article the authors speak of the brain’s developing resistance to the drug, and the increasing amount of it to maintain the addiction, which is pretty much as I said.
The second article talks about nicotine’s effects on alertness and spatial attention in non-smokers. We’re talking about smokers here. This might be germane to why we start, but not much as to why we continue.
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Well, duh, that’s why you need to quit periodically. When you stop just say to yourself, “But it’ll feel so good when I smoke again.”
Maybe I will tell my kids when they are teens that if they smoke, I will too. We can smoke together, all the time! That ought to drive them away from it.
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Or they’d take you up on your offer*, and you’d be known as “the cool mom, who’s not all judgemental and everything.” We always admired the parents who doubled as their kid’s connection.
Why would you associate teenage rebellion with anti-corporate feelings, though? My kids are teens* and the tv commercials they saw were commonly a message that said, “this corporation will help you rebel against your parents.”
The ads put out by the tobacco companies say “use our product and you’ll be cool,” which is what everyone says. The ads against smoking say, “Do what your parents tell you.”
*My kids do not smoke, and I hope that they never will. I’ve already talked to them about why I don’t think they should smoke, how difficult it is for me to shake the habit, and how bad it is.
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\Well, duh, that’s why you need to quit periodically. When you stop just say to yourself, “But it’ll feel so good when I smoke again.”
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I have never known even one smoker who has done this. Not one.
I have, though, known many who were addicted and tried to quit but failed. Including myself, many times before I was finally successful. And I have absolutely no desire to return because “it’ll feel so good when I smoke again”.
I think you’re trying to bullshit this old dog.
Duh, indeed! :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=mangeorge]
I have never known even one smoker who has done this. Not one.
I have, though, known many who were addicted and tried to quit but failed. Including myself, many times before I was finally successful. And I have absolutely no desire to return because “it’ll feel so good when I smoke again”.
I think you’re trying to bullshit this old dog.
Duh, indeed! :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Zeriel]
I enjoy maybe one to two cigarettes, cigars, or pipes a month. Because they’re the only ones I smoke.
I don’t understand a pack a day habit (hell, I make over $50k a year and I don’t think I could afford it!) but I also don’t understand the idea that all smoking is bad and addictive.
Czarcasm in particular I’d like to hear from as to whether he thinks I’m only “enjoying” it because it relieves my “addiction”. I rather enjoyed the cigar I had yesterday. No coughing, either. Maybe next week I’ll clean out my pipe for the first time in a few months. Note I haven’t smoked prior to this since…hrm, a party in May.
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Add me to this list. I enjoy a good cigar or pipe once a week or so. I never could get the hang of cigarettes though, they always tasted foul compared to the alternatives.
I attribute my lack of an addiction to the fact that I view my smokes as an “experience” or “activity” rather than a necessary or routine portion of my day. A smoke is something to be enjoyed, the pleasant blue smoke curling around my lamp as I read, or talk with friends; or filling the evening air with a crisp scent from the pipe tobacco. It is ten minutes to myself to think, or a nice diversion as I work on a hobby. Sucking down a cigarette just seems somehow disrespectful to the whole process to me.
Ex-smoker here. I smoked about a half pack a day for over a decade. I really, really loved smoking. I loved the buzz; I loved the sensual pleasure of sucking the smoke in; I loved the whole activity of it, the isolated little moment of pure, reflective pleasure.
Some of my favourite moments were just, for example, sitting on the end of a dock, enjoying a smoke, at peace with the world and watching the waves comming in.
I quit cold turkey three years ago because I didn’t like what the habit was doing to my health, and I didn’t like being under any addictive compulsion. But I’d simply be lying if I was to say that it wasn’t very enjoyable.
I certainly did not smoke to “look cool”, I smoked because smoking is very enjoyable and I was young enough to be stupid about enjoyable things that are bad for you.
[QUOTE=Acid Lamp]
Add me to this list. I enjoy a good cigar or pipe once a week or so. I never could get the hang of cigarettes though, they always tasted foul compared to the alternatives.
I attribute my lack of an addiction to the fact that I view my smokes as an “experience” or “activity” rather than a necessary or routine portion of my day. A smoke is something to be enjoyed, the pleasant blue smoke curling around my lamp as I read, or talk with friends; or filling the evening air with a crisp scent from the pipe tobacco. It is ten minutes to myself to think, or a nice diversion as I work on a hobby. Sucking down a cigarette just seems somehow disrespectful to the whole process to me.
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[QUOTE=Acid Lamp]
Add me to this list. I enjoy a good cigar or pipe once a week or so. I never could get the hang of cigarettes though, they always tasted foul compared to the alternatives.
I attribute my lack of an addiction to the fact that I view my smokes as an “experience” or “activity” rather than a necessary or routine portion of my day. A smoke is something to be enjoyed, the pleasant blue smoke curling around my lamp as I read, or talk with friends; or filling the evening air with a crisp scent from the pipe tobacco. It is ten minutes to myself to think, or a nice diversion as I work on a hobby. Sucking down a cigarette just seems somehow disrespectful to the whole process to me.
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Forgot to mention, I do not enjoy the smell of even good pipe or cigar smoke. I prefer that, instead of assuming, the smoker asks if the smoke bothers me. It does. Please wait till I’m not around, even if it’s in your home. Just as I did when I smoked cigarettes and I had company.
It amazes me that there are still (very few) pipe smokers who think it’s okay to puff away in an elevator.
[QUOTE=mangeorge]
Forgot to mention, I do not enjoy the smell of even good pipe or cigar smoke. I prefer that, instead of assuming, the smoker asks if the smoke bothers me. It does. Please wait till I’m not around, even if it’s in your home. Just as I did when I smoked cigarettes and I had company.
It amazes me that there are still (very few) pipe smokers who think it’s okay to puff away in an elevator.
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I only inhale “secondhand” so to speak. That is, I do not inhale on the initial puff, but rather breathe it back in after puffing it out of my mouth first. I don’t smoke in all rooms of my home, only the library or outside. It’s a good arrangement with nashiitashii , whose mother smokes cigs, a habit she doesn’t like at all.