And he *still *is yammering nonstop about the AWB, like an untreated OCD patient, *still *claiming that his side’s efforts to stop Manchin-Toomey, which would have done what he *claims *he wants done but was *not *an AWB, was actually its proponents’ fault!
His ability to fantasize even includes that. And it is not the mark of someone mentally healthy enough to be permitted even to look at a gun.
I should have added that he isn’t even bothering to support his claims even that far, when bloviating about how and why the AWB and Manchin-Toomey bills got defeated. No news reports, no commentary, not even some other guy on the Internet. Nothing, just his imagined butthurt.
But remember, this is a guy for whom tens of thousands of deaths are an excusable and rationalizable abstraction at best, while the jackboots of tyranny are a real threat. That syndrome would be laughable if it weren’t so common and so rarely treated.
Are you referring to people killed by firearms?
That doesn’t bother me as long as when the guys Mrs. Plant was to testify against come through the door, at 5’ tall I have something to shoot them with.
It’s more likely something that can be grabbed away and used *against *you. Have you thought this out, practiced some tactics etc., or is this another case of compensatory fantasizing?
Yes, no doubt there are legitimate cases of successful defensive gun use. But the numbers of deaths from gun use are far, far greater. Now, what then should a responsible society do?
Hm, be sure every one knows how to shoot safely and accurately, so that folks won’t break into homes knowing that they could become shot? 
Death is a more serious matter than that to some of us. Kindly indulge us, if you can.
I’ll do my best
Smileys don’t help your case.
I’m not trying to persuade you, I’m indicating a friendly difference of opinion rather than a brawl.
No problem; if they grab my gun away from me, then they’ll have the gun, so I’ll grab it away from them. 
Honestly, “they’ll just grab your gun away from you” is the most retarded anti-gun argument I’ve ever heard.
Thank you, Lumpy.
Says the guy who isn’t 5’1. And is ignorant of all the times exactly that happens.
And if that’s the worst anti-gun argument you’ve ever heard, maybe it’s time to reconsider your position, hoss.
Some people think a firearm is a magic wand that makes people do what you tell them. Of course, it most certainly is not.
True. It’s more of a Wand of Enlargement, which magically turns douchebags into bigger douchebags.
Saying shit like that is what makes politicians vote against reasonable gun control laws that everyone supports.
Run that by again?
That was just a tacky remark on a message board, not serious debate.
This is an excellent example of why the Stand Your Ground law is both idiotic and badly applied–it DOES seem that you’re more likely to go to jail in Florida for attempting to intimidate your way out of a fight than by actually opening fire with intent to harm, and that’s completely fucked up.
If our elected leaders are really that sensitive, I pray they never discover the Snackpit. Government as we know it would collapse.
If you have a problem with the cites then explain your objection if your problem is that some of my cites are gun nuts then I suspect that there are a few of your cites from gun grabbers.
BTW, some of my cites include the violence policy center and the department of justice.
We had this debate in great debates and I was not the only one who thought you guys fucked yourselves raw with the AWB.
350, 000 defensive gun uses per year versus 700 accidental gun deaths and at most 5000 gun murders every year.
That’s a pretty high hurdle. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard dumber anti gun arguments… this week.