Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

Oh, Kable? About those stray bullets? Any comment to offer?

More guns!

I’m happy that you are safe in your home today. One night I wasn’t but I didn’t catch it on camera. One day this lady wasn’t either.

The shooter maybe should practice more. Fortunately in neighborhoods there is a lot more houses to hit than people. Would you prefer if the home owner had just let them kill or kidnap him?

Science!

It’s funny because I pictured you telling this guy about how many lumens these new flashlights are putting out. You just needed more lumens, man! Then your kid would be alive.

AR15s are more accurate and easier to aim than handguns. How’s that?

These people just need more lumens too:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57529715/retired-chicago-cop-fatally-shoots-son-after-mistaking-him-for-burglar/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/22/ny-police-officer-shoots-and-kills-son-he-thought-was-an-intruder/

Do you have the one with the DEA firearms instructor who shoots himself in the foot moments after boasting that he’s the only one in the room qualified to carry that type of gun? Can’t get enough of that one.

Clearly, those are the only two options! Oh, wait! There’s one more! He could have stopped shooting when they began to flee! Forgot that one. So did you, apparently.

And yes, there are a lot of houses in neighborhoods. Usually, there is at least one person in them. Sometimes several. Often, they are children.

Gosh, sure hope the guy had one of those expanded magazines, so he can keep on firing. Wouldn’t want him to have to stop shooting, just because the perps are a quarter-mile away.

Responsible gun owner shoots self in hand, realizes that he’s safer without the damned thing.

I’d like to see gun ownership regulated via background checks, required education, testing, licensing, registration, insurance and documentation of transfer. All of these ideas are related to the purchaser and not the item.

I’d also like to see limits on certain types of rapid fire weapons and on large magazines for rapid fire weapons. For those wanting those unusual types of weapons and/or the larger magazines, I’d like to see all the above requirements, plus extra licensing such as adding a salt-water stamp to a fishing license.

Any or all of these are reasonable.

I’m not interested in watching Kable’s videos. That’s just argument by anecdote and a weak attempt at emotional appeal.

For every video he posts, someone could post a ‘stupid gun mistakes’ or ‘stupid gun owners’ video right off of YouTube. There are plenty of them (and they are incredibly painful to watch- nothing like seeing a 12 year old looking down the barrel to see why his gun won’t shoot), but videos, pro or con, are an absolutely, 100%, ridiculous way to attempt to win an argument.

It’s never too early to teach your kids about gun safety, right?

Oh.
eta: Yeah, I’m just ripping these from the Ohh Shoot blog. Deal with it.

I’ll have to read the paper in full and tell you what I think. I know better than to trust the abstract of a review paper.

Might not help in that case, but it’s not often that your kid is masked and lunging at you with an apparent weapon. You don’t think that case is typical of accidental shootings do you?

That’s what I’ve been doing to you guys in reverse. Lots of shooters are lax with gun safety. I think gun safety should be taught in public schools along with sex education.

He’s responsible?

“Williamson said he didn’t touch the gun and did nothing to jar the handgun into firing. He said he has since done research that he said showed the revolver was prone to accidental firings.”

That’s what you call bullshit.

One thing wrt home defense–it seems the gun gives the owner a false sense of security to go wandering around the house. The common stories are that a sudden noise woke him up, he grabbed his gun, and went to investigate. This seems incredibly risky. He’s assuming that he’ll have the advantage, but there’s no reason to believe that. It seems prudent to assume that there are multiple armed intruders who heard him wake up and are now hunkered down waiting for him to approach. The home owner should approach the situation that way.

There are less dangerous options than a gun for home defense:

-Alarm system with panic button near bed. Prevent intruders from entering in the first place. If you hear a noise, activate the alarm. Very few intruders are going to stick around with an alarm going off.

  • Get a dog. A dog is always on active alert for intruders. He’ll let you know if someone is trying to get in the house. And he’ll give up his life to save you.

If the homeowner wants to protect himself and family, there are ways to do that without introducing a gun and it’s associated dangers to the house.

Absolutely! Reading each of your links I have to conclude a weapon mounted flashlight would have prevented all 3 of those accidental shooting.

You don’t think so? Have you ever handled a weapon with a Surefire on it?

I guess it works, it anyone bothers to watch your videos. It’s still a poor way to make and argument.

I don’t think gun safety should be taught in school other than, perhaps, an elective for those interested. Not everybody shoots or owns. Most folks have sex, though.

Stupid irresponsible gun owners, not having enough lumens at their disposal. What problem can’t be solved by more guns and more lumens?!?

I’ve never gone shooting in the dark, so no, I’ve never used a little flashlight.

I would say if there is an intruder, a gun gives you a good degree of genuine security. In my case the intruder was in my bedroom when I first saw him.

An alarm might help, but if it did not scare the intruder the cops would get there to late. In my case they came pretty fast, about 5 minutes after they were called by my girlfriend. I think a dog would be better and likely would deter intruders. Good guard dogs are not without risk to your neighbors either, plus I work too much to properly take care of one, so a gun fit my situation better. Plus guns are lot of fun to shoot.

Those 3 people would be alive if the shooter had a flashlight on their gun.

OK, I figured you didn’t know what you are talking about. Now I’m sure.