And a few right here, too.
But we should be over our “hoplophobia” by now, shouldn’t we? It happens enough.
IOW, more than one a day.
So, I’m sure someone’s pointed this out before, but… fuck it, I’m annoyed.
If we say, for the sake of argument, that the week following a mass shooting is ‘too early’ to talk about taking action to stop them, the full list of days so far this year when it would have been appropriate to discuss are as follows:
Wednesday, April 15th.
It would have to be a short discussion, though, since there were two more of them the following day.
(I don’t have data for September to hand. There’s a small chance there might be a day in there. Wouldn’t bet on it, though.)
Tax Day is not the day for politics.
Why don’t we pick a random day next year to discuss guns and gun violence? If we plan ahead - then it won’t be reactionary. Although it will almost certainly follow another mass shooting somewhere - so there is that . . .
Not the NRA as such, but:
At least Alex Jones hasn’t floated a theory that this shooting was a government false-flag op . . . so far as I’ve heard . . . yet . . .
TheSeaOtter’s link identfies the shooter as a 20 year old male who sacrificed his life in defense of his 2A rights.
Wow. “… there will be calls for more gun control, and that happens every time we have one of these incidents …” Now that is a brain surgeon!
What’s the old movie line…I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more?
Well I’m mad as hell about these endless school shootings. People are shooting down our children and it HAS TO STOP! I don’t give a rip right now about anyone’s right to bear arms. I’m ready to make gun ownership by anyone but law enforcement punishable by death. Shut down the damn gun manufacturers. No one in this country is forced to hunt to eat anymore. Get guns out of this country, whatever it takes.
If people still won’t give up their guns, tax ammunition. Make each bullet cost $1,500 dollars or more. There is limited damage any nutcase can do with one or two bullets. Call it the Barney Fife law.
In a few short years my grandchildren will start going to school. I do NOT want to see them head to school every morning wearing bullet-proof vests and fearing for their lives from some idiot with a gun.
I’ve never liked the fact that any ordinary citizen can lead his normal everyday life packing heat. If you have a gun, eventually you will use it or someone will steal it and they will use it. If that gun were never there in the first place, there would be 0% change of it being the instrument involved in shooting anyone.
We have an emergency in this country when it comes to guns and our children. We need to wake up and see that and fix it.
Full disclosure. One of my sons was present in the theatre complex when James Holmes shot it up, although thankfully in the chamber next to the one he chose for his attack. I will never again be unbiased about the issue of personal weapons.
This Internet link provides details in hundreds of gun murders.
There ya go, cupcake.
The sheriff handling this latest mass shooting opposed doing anything after Newtown. Because the Second Commandment is holy.
But nothing can be done, observes The Onion, topical and fast as ever.
Some of you need to shut up, get the hell out of the way, and let us try to fix it.
And yet the votes to ban or heavily restrict guns aren’t there. And don’t blame that boogeyman “The NRA”- if Congresscritters vote by lobbying power, then why isn’t there an anti-NRA that is better funded, more politically powerful, and commands more grassroot support? Why doesn’t the Brady Campaign set national gun policy? Why have states loosened restrictions on carry rather than tightened them? Do you think that somehow happened by magic?
Try again. And if you recall I didn’t ask for statistics on gun murders, I asked for a link supporting your claim that
IOW, cite facts or shut up, but don’t put words in other peoples’ mouths.
And don’t call me cupcake.
Because the NRA is the lobbying arm of the gun manufacturers, who have virtually unlimited resources to throw against any gun safety legislation. You seem to think this issue is decided by grassroots public support, when it is actually choreographed by money interests, plus a willingness to abandon public safety for private profit. Those who believe the gummint is coming for their guns are just pawns.
Shamelessly stolen from http://eveningharold.com/2015/10/01/us-mass-shooting-at-add-place/
We need to stop politicizing the deaths of innocent Americans and get back to talking about Benghazi.
What would it take to get you to rethink your opposition?
What is the difference between Chris Harper-Mercer and you? How can the rest of us tell? Hell, how can you tell?
What is the difference between Chris Harper-Mercer and you? How can the rest of us tell? Hell, how can you tell?
I’m not armed. Are you?
And, assuming you are, what would be your answer?
I don’t want to kill people. That is a major difference between you and me.
:rolleyes:
How do I know you don’t, and never will? How do you even know?
Step aside and let the grownups deal with it, please.
Since we’re in the Pit let me point out that this is STUPID. Its stupidity is independent of which side of The Great Gun Divide that I or you or the majority of Americans might be on.
Lobbying, and hence legislator response, is NOT proportional to the number of voters who click a particular box. It’s instead related to the vehemence of the support, to how important that issue is to people on one side or the other.
Voters who support gun control tend to be rational thinkers(*), who are concerned about a variety of issues: quality of education, equal opportunity, environmentalism, police brutality etc. etc. Gun freaks, OTOH, tend to be obsessed with a single issue: Guns Guns GUNS GUNS!!! I want my GUNS! … This isn’t me just speculating; I’ve read voter interviews of homosexuals who favor rational economic and social policies, but vote for the Republiopaths anyway because of GUNS!!!
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- Although I consider myself a rationalist, I was neutral on the topic of gun control until I started reading these threads. The arguments still haven’t swayed me one or the other. But I now oppose America’s gun culture for the simple reason that the Gun Nuts are, as a rule, ridiculously stupid people.
Hope this helps.