Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

Yeah that’s how boards of directors usually work but the position comes with no real power. The ballot usually includes something like 25-30 candidates for 25 spots and their main power is appointing the executive VP (and its ALWAYS going to be Wayne LaPierre unless he gets caught with a dead woman or live goat) and the executive VP pretty much runs the whole show. With that said, I wish they would kick nugent and norquist off the board. Unfortunately there is an element of the NRA consitutuency that is racist and southern and they vote for Nugent.

Good for them. This is why gun rights are so important for minorities and the disenfranchised.

Little information is available yet; but my guess is that the shooter and driver will turn out to have extensive criminal histories and were in possession of firearms illegally due to previous felony convictions. Anyone want to bet I’m wrong?

I think that, yes, if I had lumps of lead in my arm and stomach, the criminal history of the shooter would make all the difference.

An armed society is a polite society. Not necessarily at first, of course. But eventually drivers will learn not to honk at each other. That’s just rude. Sure, we may have a few homicides until people understand the expectations. But once the new culture of politeness is fully established, you’ll practically never hear people honking at each other. And won’t that be nice? We’ll just have to crack a few more eggs for this particular omelette. Patience. Patience is all I ask.

I’ll go you one further–they were probably drugged up, too.

My guess is that if they had extensive criminal histories and previous felony convictions, and were hopped up on some kick-ass drugs that made them feel like Superman, they could still illegally get guns as easily as ordering pizza. Wanna bet I’m wrong?

Supply, meet demand.

You spelled “patients” wrong.:wink:

Not at all. But my points were: (1.)This almost certainly wasn’t committed by someone from a middle-class background with no priors suddenly succumbing to a random fit of rage. Gun crime is NOT randomly distributed throughout the population. (2.)The very last people whom a gun ban would disarm would be the people who regularly break the law and know how to buy contraband. Face it, you’re never going to make it impossible to obtain guns. Never. And it’s no good saying “we ought to at least try”, because some efforts are not merely futile but counter-productive. For example, if the point of Prohibition was to cut back drunkenness and alcoholism, it not only failed but created its own evils that overall made things worse then they had been.

Ha. Ha. I suppose it didn’t occur to you that shooting at people is also “rude”, and that its a much worse idea if they might shoot back.

Whoosh, guys.

(at least I hope so)

Agreed, if that woman had been armed, she could have shot him for cutting her off rather than honking her horn, and then she wouldn’t be in the hospital today.

n.m double post

You see, an armed society is a *polite *society. :rolleyes:

I’m reminded of the town of Shinbone - where everyone was polite, especially to Mr. Valance and Mr. Doniphon.

Indeed, if everyone knew that rude driving could potentially spark a rolling shootout on the interstate, then we’d live in a society free of both honking and dangerous lane changes. Plus, the rate of shootouts would surely go down. If Mutually Assured Destruction is good enough to prevent nuclear annihilation, it’s good enough to prevent a little highway gunplay.

Is *polite *a synonym for terrified?

So what are you proposing that would have prevented these criminals from getting their hands on guns?

The fact of the matter is that most gun crimes are committed by people who cannot legally buy guns anyway so having a legal method of buying guns does nothing to stop them (at least for a generation or two)

Its not exactly clear what you are trying to say here. Are you saying that banning guns is pointless because it won’t stop criminals from getting guns, or are you saying that the legal possession of guns by law abiding citizens makes guns really easy for criminals to get?

Where do you think all these illegally purchased guns come from, then?

The main source is straw buyers (considered to be a grossly under-prosecuted felony). You’d have to ban the sale of firearms to the general public to even try to cut off the supply, and even then you wouldn’t succeed- you’d just make getting a black market gun a little harder and more expensive.