I was too, he was only a few feet away and he dropped like a sack of potatoes so I figured I had killed him. My best guess at what happened was he was holding the 2x4 with both hands and the bullet (a 10mm hollow point) traveled lengthwise up his forearm and shattered his elbow. The bullet I think expended all it’s energy as the jacket separated and was recovered on my bedroom floor.
What’s funny is prior to the incident I thought there might be something to that talk about people being safer in their homes without a firearm. Interesting how a little anecdotal evidence can change your opinion.
Does anyone else think it’s weird that a guy would bother to break into someone’s house to beat the sleeping owner with a two-by-four? In the dark? That sounds like a highly personal crime.
I mean, a robber would most like take things robbers like- electronics, jewelry, money.
A person intent on simple murder would likely bring an actual weapon such as a gun or knife. A two-by-four in the dark is strange to say the least.
Kable, did you know your attacker? Did your girl have another fellah? What age were you when this happened? Clearly the guy was caught since you shot him (or at him- can you clarify? I believe you have said both). What was he charged with and what sentence was handed down, if there was one?
Yeah I knew him. From what I gather he did have a crush on my girlfriend but no relationship. I was about 32 when it happened. I came to learn he was bipolar and not taking his meds. I think he was charged with breaking and entering and assault and battery, because the prosecutors said that was easier to make stick than attempted murder, however in the police report he die say his intent was to kill. He pleaded insanity and got it, and was given 7 years in the state hospital and let out after 2 or so. It was after the incident that I became more of a fanatic so to speak.
I agree your anecdote makes no sense at all given that none of the proposed gun laws the country supposedly needs would have prevented this tragedy, or the others.
It’s stark proof that we can’t trust gun-owners just because they’re gun-owners.
I’d bet dollars to donuts that the guy who laid that gun on the bed - but just for a second - knew all the same safety rules and stats about defensive gun uses as friend Kable, but shucks, wouldn’t you know it, couldn’t have seen it coming in this case, just one of those freak accidents that hardly ever happens … more than a few times a month, anyway.
True, people choosing not to be dimwitted gun nuts who leave loaded firearms lying all over the place would’ve prevented it. So far that’s proven somewhat more difficult to legislate.
A few more details on the 4 year old who killed the Deputy’s wife:
"On April 6, Wilson County Deputy Daniel Fanning was inside his home showing his weapons collection to a relative when the officer’s wife and young nephew entered the room. The child grabbed one of Fanning’s loaded guns off the bed and fired a single shot.
The bullet struck Josephine Fanning, the deputy’s 48-year-old wife. Despite efforts to revive her, Josephine was pronounced dead at the scene.
The gun used in the shooting was not the officer’s service weapon, nor was he on duty at the time of the incident, The Tennessean reported. "
No, there was not. As the other thread has shown, there’s simply no point in taking pains to explain this to you. There was no effect, even without accounting for other factors, for long guns. You don’t just get to call something a trend based on your whim.
Like the old saying, you use statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost - for support rather than illumination.
You’re a lying weasel shit. It’s apparently compulsive; you cannot stop yourself.
What statistic do you use to draw the conclusion that the other factors were “more associated” with homicide? Hint for your dumbass: you have to do a direct comparison of the parameter values in a regression model to draw comparative conclusions like this.
No, you pointed out a fairly minor mistake (saying the value “is” rather than “is within”) that I made and I acknowledged it. How is that backpedaling?
You’re an ankle biting little douchebag. Please state for me the value of the parameter comparison test shown in Table 3 or Table 4 that would allow you to conclude that one of the variables is stronger than guns in the household.
Also, I would like to point out that Kable has taken pains to suggest that the Kellermann paper is rife with error and fraud and has been discredited, while also pointing to specific stats within it as evidence in support of his position on guns. Pick one or the other, you dumb fuck!