I personally didn’t think csharpmajor was being racist, I assumed that csharpmajor is also of the same culture from this quote:
Although stereotyping within your own culture is still not politically correct - it isn’t racism.
To quote Dorothy Sayers:
Eleven-year-olds are natural nuisances. Smart 11-yo’s who belong to families in which smart=best are especially annoying. He’ll probably either grow out of it or have no friends. But this is a good age to hand him a book on logic. Give it to him for a Christmas present! Then run away so he can practice on someone else. 
Heh. I forgot to include the follow-up to that quote, after Sayers encourages you to make Pert children study and argue:
And, the essay, if you want a citation.
Oh-WELL. That explains everything, doesn’t it. If I had known he was Asian from the OP-I wouldn’t have even posted.
Pssst-sarcasm for the challenged.
I feel sorry for the kid–his parents may only give him attention/love for that aspect of himself. Not a pretty picture.
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I don’t know. I always include the children’s forums when I search on this board, but I never find anything there.
I also think “eats stupid food for breakfast” will come in very handy.
I don’t get why this has turned into a discussion about parental pressure. The whole point is that he doesn’t need to put in any effort to do well where he is and he likes to brag about this. I also don’t much like the way you all say I’m stereotyping when you’re assuming all Asian kids must be under incredible pressure. At our school there were the happy overachievers and the unhappy overachievers and yeah, you could tell the difference.
For what it’s worth, Ben sounds pretty insecure to me. He might also have some hero worship going on for you, csharp (or a big ol’ crush, if you’re a girl). In other words, there’s (probably) nothing wrong with him that time won’t fix. Besides, putting up with him will be good practice for when you get a job. 
Yes, I’d say that an 11 year old that resorts to the intellectual equivalent of whipping out his dick to prove he’s smarter than a 6 year old does have some insecurity issues.
Well, for heaven’s sake. Dunno 'bout the rest of the Dopers here, but I don’t feel comfortable pitting an 11 year old child. He’s 11. He’s fat. He’s too smart for his age/developemental level/whatever.
It’s obvious he has issues and is struggling–who didn’t at 11–or 16, I might add.
Why don’t you take a long look in the mirror and figure out why you feel the need to beat up on a kid who is insecure, possibly physically unattractive and emotionally needy?
IMO, you need to look at your need to ostracize this kid–does his behavior strike a nerve with you? Why?
11 is not in control of his destiny–11 is still subject to the whims and pressures that parents place. The same could be said of 16, really.
Ostracise? No, no, he’s not at the age where he’d want anything to do with me anyway. I’d never say anything nasty to him in real life, but surely I’m allowed to let off steam on a message board he’ll never see, right? Plus you’re giving all these explanations, that he’s insecure or unloved or whatever which is fair enough, but it doesn’t actually do anything to change the fact that I find him intolerable. Just because he’s obnoxious doesn’t mean I’m obliged to like him for it. It makes no sense. It’s not that I can’t see what you’re saying, it’s that it makes no difference whatsoever.
I think you think I’m being actively unfriendly towards him in real life. I’m not, honest. I acknowledge my tendency to be creatively wrathful online. In real life I am much calmer and more timid with a whole different set of personality flaws. I was bullied as a kid for being too smart and I know how it fells. I wouldn’t give anyone else crap over it. Hell, I liked this kid for not being afraid to show his intelligence until I realised hang on, this kid ain’t right. It’s not just the ego-stoking. He CONSTANTLY puts down people around him for being “stupid”, he can never wait his turn, everything has to be about HIM, etc etc. Being “insecure” doesn’t magically make any of this acceptable. I reserve my right to dislike him.
PS - Before you say “Well, at least you don’t LIVE with him,” yeah, I get to live with him for 3 weeks next month. We’re going on VACATION together. You know, I would actually like to tell him somehow that whipping out his intellectual penis is not a good way of impressing anyone but I can’t think of a nice way to say it. Maybe I should just convince him to sign up for Mensa. Around his age I found myself suddenly surrounded by smart kids for different reasons and became a much more tolerable person, but I was annoying for different reasons. I’m kind of scared of giving him something new to wank over. He’s 12, by the way. Did I say 11 earlier? I guess it doesn’t make that much of a difference.
Bluntly. That’s how you say it. Not sarcastically, not sneeringly, not contemptuously. Just say to him at some point, when it’s just the two of you, “You know, I think you alienate people sometimes when you talk about how smart you are. You’re definitely smart, so don’t worry that folks won’t notice. If you’re humble about it, they’ll notice that, too, and that is what will really impress them. I wish someone had told ME that when I was your age.”
eleanor, yes, pitting an 11-year-old is not the world’s best thing to do, but c’mon, it’s entirely appropriate for a 16-year-old to do. Part of being a kid is figuring out how to deal with your frustration with other kids; part of being a teenager is finding ways to separate yourself from childhood. Ain’t always pretty, but it’s necessary.
Daniel
Wow. Talk about fighting the good fight against racial stereotypes!
Sorry, I meant the Asian kids pulling this shit, not threemae.
I just want to applaud dangermom for quoting Dorothy Sayers! I love the little of her I’ve read (mainly her C’tian essays, haven’t touched her Lord Wimsey novels).
Hell, he doesn’t sound much different from many eleven-year-olds I know. Kids that age are usually obnoxious.
Sounds better if you say “Dumb Flakes”.
Thank you, Garrison Keillor.
HE READS THE DOPE :eek:
I showed him the site a few months ago. He didn’t seem interested.
:smack: :smack: :smack:
This thread is over.
Great work, Ms “I don’t need to use fake names because they’ll never see this anyway.” Though he doesn’t seem to know about the forums yet.
Thanks for the advice, by the way. I think my hatred of him has slowly melted away. But no more replies.
OK, I won’t reply.
Same, same…