Stupid/obvious crossword clues?

Yes, I have certainly encountered punning clues in NYT puzzles (not that these types of clues always rely on puns; there are other ways of crafting a misleading definition). However, among the North American cryptic crossword community, it seems to be almost a rule that cryptic clues must be of the form definition + wordplay (or vice versa). British-style “cryptic definitions”, as they’re known, are verboten.

Wait, are you implying you were doing a crossword with 2-letter answers? :confused:

If I ever wrote a crossword, I would make sure to throw FOIL in there to mess with the people expecting EPEE for the 4-letter fencing sword clue.

Yeah, the TV section has a crossword with a lot of 2-letter answers. On the days when I finish the three (sometimes four!) real crosswords on Sunday, I am forced to do the TV one. I work Sunday mornings at 6 AM at a gas station, which is dead time, so I have the opportunity to do a lot of other stuff.

Joe

One of my favorites from a relatively recent NYT puzzle:

A bum rap? (11)

BABY GOT BACK

I’ve also occasionally seen CZAR instead of TSAR for “Russian autocrat”. Not very often, but just enough to keep you on your toes.

That’s one I always fill in as “–AR” (and then immediately check the orthogonal clues to see whether I can disambiguate) because I’ve seen it as CZAR, as well. (Which is the more common spelling in English anyway, isn’t it? Not that it matters in crosswords.)

I’m still a bit surprised that there are crosswords with two-letter answers. If I saw such a crossword–unless I have some reason to believe it’s a specialty crossword that makes clever use of the two spaces somehow–I would run far, far away from it. The clues that wheregeorge04 complains about (along with the rest of the examples in this thread) are exactly what I’d expect from a constructor who doesn’t even know the basic conventions or is too lazy to make a proper grid.

I’m not a crossword expert by any means, but crosswords that insult your intelligence or are just straight definitions suck. That pretty much just leaves me with NYT crosswords that I can reliably enjoy.

There are other good, clever, intelligent crosswords being made today besides the NYT. See here for a list, with links.

I’ve tried the LA Times ones years ago, and I didn’t get the enjoyment out of them as the NYT puzzles. I’ll try some of those other ones, though. I just really like the clue editing and philosophy of Will Shortz. Believe it or not, I actually did once come across a reasonable book of Dell puzzles. (At least I think it was Dell.) It was one of those books I picked up at a gas station on a long trip, expecting to be disappointed, but was pleasantly surprised.

Hi **SFP ** – Sorry for the delay in responding. I’ve been away from the Boards for several days, so am just now seeing this.

I was an editor for a major publisher of puzzle magazines for 14 years. I left that job in '06, but still do occasional freelance work for them, including test-solving their cryptic (British-style) crosswords.

Or the “poetic name for Ireland”, or the like, where you’re stuck with E— until you get another letter (is it ERIN or EIRE?).

Are there still diagramless puzzles? Their clues were often stupid and obvious, but the trick was to fit them into a grid. That wasn’t always easy!

I just saw one last night that fits the OP’s question.

Clue: In a line
Answer: LINEAR

And this was in a puzzle that usually has very clever clues and obscure references. :smack: