Thank you for posting that. I was beginning to doubt my memory and didn’t know if I was up for reading her statement again to find out.
Again, do the people giving the father a pass not understand writing a letter of support that is NOT dickish versus one that IS? I mean, the latter is not the only option. As has been repeated ad nauseum, the father could have done his parenting duties and yet still avoid phrases like “20 minutes of action.” Or are you saying you’d take the same tack?
Finally, people calling the dad an asshole really isn’t a big deal, is it? Certainly not compared to sexual assault.
Betcha you can’t get those visas. You can’t even get into Canada with a DUI (my sister is banned from Canada :)). Europe is not busy handing out resident visas to U.S. felons. A friend of mine has been trying to get a visa to live and work anywhere in Europe for five years - she has a lot of money, an MBA, and no criminal record. She’s not getting one unless she marries a European or already has a job in Europe.
I don’t think he’s actually appealed. Even if he has, an appeal doesn’t automatically stop you from going to jail. It’s up to the judge whether or not you get sprung pending your appeal.
Why do you say that? Are you certain that the Judge didn’t make any errors during the trial that could lead to a successful appeal?
(Let’s face it, based on the admittedly small sample size, he’s already known to have made a whopper of a error on sentencing, so why not at the trial proper?)
Do you mean he’s made a legal error? Or a moral and ethical one. I can see the second but I’m not well-versed enough in the law to spot the first. Can they impose another sentence if sentencing wasn’t within the guidelines?
Since The Internet never forgets, I expect that in 4 or 5 years, we’ll all be very impressed with the selfless lifestyle that Brock Turner will have taken up, and we’ll marvel at all the ways he’s helped his fellow citizens, be they rapists (like him) or non-rapists (like most of us). I mean, both his parents wrote to the court that he’ll live a productive and positive life, so it must be true, right? :dubious:
ETA: My prediction is that he’ll team up with Luke Gatti and have a reality series; it’ll be the 2nd top rated program during both Trump presidencies, only slightly less beloved than Ow My Balls!
First, there’s no way in hell anyone should read all of that self-important drivel. Seriously, was this an essay competition?
Second, after now hearing from apparently everyone in his circle, I can certainly see why he turned out the way he is. Not a single mention of the horror he perpetrated on his victim, what he did wrong, how he should face the consequences, or how remorseful he is. Just droning on and on about what all he’s lost, how this is killing his future, his family’s life and blah blah blah poor, pitiful us. Feel sorry for us! Send us money! Don’t hold us accountable!
Third, I’m glad these are being released for all and sundry to read. And I know there’s some MRA or troll types that won’t be dissuaded from their frothing, but holy hell, everyone else and their dogs will now see these narcissistic assholes for what they are… sociopaths. Then treat them accordingly.
If you want to read a full 61 pages of letters, from family and friends and swimming coaches and teachers and all the other people who know Turner, the LA Times has all of the court documents from the whole trial available on its website.
The letters are really quite an interesting read. Many of the writers have the good sense to talk in generalities about their own experiences with Turner, without implying that he has been incorrectly convicted or somehow unfairly treated. Others, however, still continue to see him as the only victim in this case.
Here’s his sister:
From a family friend and someone who employed turner when he returned to Ohio after the arrest:
From a friend:
From his gradparents:
From a friend and swimming competitor:
From another guy on the Stanford swimming team:
Yikes! There’s some self-delusion going on in some of those letters. And, in a couple of cases, some really bad writing.
Quite a few other letter-writers say that they have daughters, and would not hesitate to trust Turner around their daughters. I’d be interested to know if they really feel that way now that he’s back among them in Ohio.
And again from that article in post 220 - we know this is all false. Brock Turner did drugs all through high school and college. He was arrested for under age drinking last November.
He is neither trustworthy nor honest, and the rest of his family is looking pretty bad, too. I wonder if they’ve been pricing tickets to Mexico?
