We know that mods don’t hold posters as accountable for directions multiple pages back. Usually a mod note suffices as a reminder when the moderated post buried much earlier. Warnings or more sterner moderation happens when the moderation is just a few posts earlier. If a poster can’t do that, well, I’m not sure what to say.
Either way, you’d still have to look through the thread to find these [Moderated] tags anyway.
what would be helpful really is if you could put a sticky in the thread above the op for group warnings like saying “knock off trump jabs this is GQ” for example when multiple people cant resist … or just for preemptive warnings for new threads …
The simplest thing would be to edit the offending post.
Well, no offense but maybe you’re better off not mentioning them at all? If only because the rest of us aren’t going to know what the hell you’re talking about.
The simplest thing is to do nothing. I vote for that.
In fairness, I think that most of us knew that he was talking about www.reddit.com, the world’s largest and most popular news aggregator.
Yeah, you guys are pretty reasonable about that.
Links to entire threads are not helpful for this, or any, discussion.
I could be wrong, but I think I remember that it was Colibri who said that posters are instructed to read the thread before posting.
Has the guideline been changed?
Except that, by abbreviating, he caused Reddit to be mentioned 14 times in subsequent posts.
Guess it’s 19 times now.
The thing about comparing moderation policies to anything at Reddit is that there are as many moderation policies as there are people since anyone can start a subReddit and become a mod to that subReddit.
As to the OP, I was also just about to respond to that post when I saw the red characters getting bigger. I like the suggestion in the OP as well as adding a tag to the title.
I didn’t realize that mod instructions from multiple page threads that are old are not modded as stringently. Good to know.
No, that’s always been the rule, and as far as I know, still is. And it is still best practice for lots of reasons.
that being said, it Certainly when I was a mod it wasn’t a rule that earlier moderated posts carried less weight, per se, just that it was typical to give some leeway when a mod note was 10 pages back, versus two posts back.
I didn’t.
Re moderating by editing the offending post: this is what we do in another forum where I am a mod. The downside is that if it takes a while for a post to be moderated, people may not back-read, and may have no idea the post was moderated. The upside is that anyone coming by later does, immediately, know the post was moderated.
Doing both is more work. Tagging the thread title is yet more work, and not super helpful in a long thread.
I will say that I am getting thrown out often enough and refreshes are slow enough that reading a whole thread can be very hard, though. And sometimes it’s just slow to refresh and i haven’t seen later stuff.
The board errors are part of the problem. In the thread I linked it was clear Colibri was becoming frustrated. There may be no good solution, but the problem is additive - even if you do read all of a multi-page thread you might miss a post, you might get multiple time out errors while trying to post leading to a mod posting before you mange to finish your post. Some threads are being posted to fast and furious. People make mistakes. I have no idea how hard it would or wouldn’t be to implement what I suggest.
In addition to the stuttering board performance, the “go to first unread post” button often doesn’t actually do that.
In-thread rule-making with a rule that everyone is expected to have seen all in-thread rules is not the only solution, but it is the lazy solution.
Not helpful to any discussion? Are you quite convinced of that?
Eh? The *entire *threads were their whole point.
IMO, the point would be better made by linking to the last page of each of those threads. but you can get their point from the top of the front pages, as well.
Well, *one *can. You clearly can’t.
It seemed to me that this suggestion had some merit, so I brought it to the mod loop for discussion. The consensus was that it wasn’t practical under current conditions, and that it wouldn’t really solve the problems anyway.
-As everybody knows, we continue to have server problems, which makes modding even more difficult. It can take me 10 minutes even to ban a spammer. Under these conditions, we don’t want to add another step to modding.
-Several mods access the board by phone. Any notification that would include a change of font or color is difficult or impossible.
-Flagging a post doesn’t really solve the problem of instructions in a long thread. You would still have to have read the post back on a previous page. So people will still miss the instructions if they don’t read the thread.
-And people are going to miss instructions no matter what you do. A case in point is the thread cited in the OP. It was suggested that we start posting instructions using a different font or color. I and a few other mods started to post instructions in red. (This is a bit of a pain in the ass, since you have to type in the code; you can’t do it with one click.) Despite the fact that I posted my instructions in red only two posts after the offending post, and they should have been impossible to miss, someone responded to that post only a couple of posts later. So I post instructions AGAIN in red. And the very next post violated them. This resulted in me making the post in the OP, where I not only made the font red but made it larger. But I swear if we posted instructions in colored swirly lights some people would still miss them.
In that case, I suspect that people started to reply before you posted, and due to their being distracted or to the board stuttering, they didn’t succeed in posting until sometime later.
When there’s moderation in a thread that is aimed at everyone and not just at one poster, I really think an edit to the thread title like “[See moderation @[post number]]” would do a world of good.
Sure, nothing is foolproof, but what’s more visible in a thread than the title? You have to click on it to open the thread, after all, and it’s at the top of every page.
And Colibri, IMHO this could replace using colored fonts to make moderation more visible. Since you mention that this is a real PITA for you guys, maybe this thread title edit would be easier? If people know where to look from the get-go, highlighting moderation in vivid red wouldn’t really be necessary.
I’m aware of what reddit is. I myself have never heard anyone call it “the R place”. And you have to admit, it would be kinda amusing if he ended up having to explain what he meant, resulting in more advertisement for it. 