Suicide in the movie Armageddon

I always liked the no taxes ever line.

I have to admit, chipping golf balls at Greenpeace is a lifelong dream of mine.

Athena rewards heroism; She does not punish it

That was a good one. But I particularly liked in Deep Impact when the reporter’s dad said, “Life goes on,” and she couldn’t help but laugh, knowing what humanity was facing.

For all those thinking it was a noble sacrifice because he saved everyone on Earth I remind you that he also saved the life of Ben Afflecks character. You have to weigh the two.

The “older person sacrifices self, that the younger may live” trope is deeply rooted in our species’ forebrains. We may laugh at it, but…it gets to us. (The reversal of this trope in the first Star Trek movie may have contributed to the movie’s relative lack of success; even if you wanted Kirk to live, there was just something off about the way things turned out.)

Deep Impact did have a lot of older people dying–but it contained no Clear Moment of Self-Sacrifice by the Father, that the Son-in-Law might live. (So to speak.)

Exactamundo.

Con Air is fun too. Terrible movies, both of them. Terrible movies that I never fail to thoroughly enjoy.

Well, I like them both. They say DI has the least wonky science of the genre, so maybe it’s less of a thrill ride. For my money the psych evals with Udo Kier are worth the price of admission.

All of the Abrahamic religions have extremely strong prohibitions against suicide, however I believe all three make distinctions between suicide and sacrificing your life to save others, which is what Bruce Willis’ character did.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Speaking of Deep Impact, what about the mother who does kill herself? Survival was an incredible longshot, but in the end less so than she’d been led to believe, thoughts?

Well, Tea Leoni does sacrifice herself so that the little girl can live.

You’re right, and it’s interesting that her sacrifice hasn’t become as iconic as has Bruce’s sacrifice (that Ben Might Live and keep Bruce’s daughter happy). There’s definitely something up with that.

Maybe it was because the kid was a rando, the child of a minor character who was portrayed as a bit of a harpy? But I agree with everyone who said it was a much better movie. I was junior high age when the films came out, and remember seeing both. Armaggedon was fun, it relaunched Aerosmith’s popularity and had huge names that kids/teenagers would know and remember. I even own the DVD. Deep Impact I just watched last month for the first time since it was released, and . . . wow. I actually cried, and that’s a rarity for me during films. It wasn’t as fun or as flashy, but the story was more impactful and (as someone upthread said) the science was more realistic. As was the failure of the shuttle crew to magically save the entire world.