Supposably - have mispronounced words become standard?

yous peeps bee silly. All dis bak n fourth over dumass words dat don’t nobody no nothing bout enyway. Tis all hot heir

To quote of the greats:

Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth!

Oh, stop it. You sound like someone who got into college on a football scholarship. :wink:

Just state your point. You keep posting this same type of thing over and over again. People are trying to explain something, if you don’t understand or agree with them, just say it.

My posts are my point. :wink:

And you must not be familiar with the late Richard Pryor. :slight_smile:

When that argument works to modify SAT scores, let me know.

A few people have touched on this, but how exactly does the OP (and most of the rest of you, for that matter) think new languages are formed? By mistakes (in spelling, pronunciation, grammar) becoming ‘standard’. How did Latin become French, Portuguese, Italian, Romanian, and Spanish? Well, geographically separate people who all initially spoke Latin started butchering it in little ways, and hundreds of years later you have five languages where you once had one. How else could different languages form, realistically? If there were no “mispronunciations” (and “errors” of grammar), we’d all still be speaking some ur-language.

We agree with you. If people want to butcher English, we can’t stop them. But they should realize that what they’re speaking is no longer English, and it’s certainly not Standard English.

It’s still English. Whether we can call it Standard English depends on how much variation you allow in the definition of it. Misspelling one word doesn’t mean that you don’t know Standard English. Furthermore, there are various versions of Standard English. Standard American English is not quite the same thing as Standard British English.

No longer English?
Guy in Minneapolis: That’s the Mississippi River.
Gal in Memphis: No, that’s the Mississippi River.
Guy in New Orleans: No and no–that right there is the Mississippi River.
Me, rolling eyes: It’s all the Mississippi River, you nitwits.

That’s all well and good in the U. S. A., but don’t try it with the Nile, the Amazon, or the Ob’, for example.

What’s funny to me is that you might think this is some sort of threat. “Person, I do not consider you to be speaking STANDARD ENGLISH!”

And then the quaking starts.

According to Keeve,:rolleyes: perhaps but not according to any body of authority.

@ Ornery Bob “I’m sorry that your mother didn’t care enough about you to teach you manners, but it’s not my problem. Please leave me alone”

“But I need you to fix my computer.”

“Fuck off.”

HAHA.

“I have no patience for people so insecure that they have to “prove” their superiority.”

I definitely agree.

I agree. Casual conversation is so different than public speaking. If I’m doing a speech, I get uptight about who vs whom, but it seems too rigid in everyday conversation.

I say “Connect-ee-cut” when I’m trying to spell it, or when I’m being a dork.

When everyone just had computers, people had to spell their own words when posting – all they got was a red squiggly under their word if it wasn’t something the spell checker knew. A spell checker won’t tell you if you used “to” when you meant “too”.

Now, there are probably as many people posting and texting and tweeting using a software keyboard on a screen that has predictive type as on a regular keyboard. So we now have people that can’t spell or construct a sentence being advised by an AI that has no idea what they are trying to say.

People used to read books and newspapers and magazines, all products that had high production values to ensure that the author’s intent was adequately presented, correct in both format and content. Now, they read each others posts and texts and tweets, written by people who cant spel oar right an English sentience.

BTW, some words are just very clumsy to try to speak. “Breakfasts” often gets the same treatment as a previous poster’s “forests” >> “foress”. On the other hand, I have also heard “breakfasses”.

That is hard word to pronounce or spell so I’m not surprised a lot people have a hard time with it.

What words. Can you give us example.

What do you mean? Where are people saying literally.

What are double negatives?

You know, if you stopped to consider the full implication of this incident–that is, if you were to fully grasp it–you’d probably reconsider some of the assertions you’ve made in this thread.

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I should of seen this coming.

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