Survivor: China - Ep. 1: "A Chicken's A Little Bit Smarter"

Noooooo! He’s the second course in my Giant Erotic Dinner of Survivor Mansex, dammit! He has to stay.

Yes, the belly is sexxay. VERY sexxay…

Right before the start of the challenge, Jeff told them that they would be given back their sneakers.

It’s possible that they thought they might only have the use of them for the IC, though. I was thinking that they pulled one over on us again by the initial statement that they would only be allowed to take whatever they were wearing at the time.

Oh, I agree with you, and I did try to cut her some slack. I’m sure there was some combination of culture-shock and jet-lag at play there, too – all of the sudden, here they all are in this temple in the middle of nowhere where it doesn’t sound like anyone else speaks your language and not everyone even has all their underwear on and these monks are telling you to do something but you don’t really know what, and it’s all so overwhelming.

I’vI think I noticed it because she said she wasn’t “religious” and yet in the very same breath she said she has a “very personal relationship with Jesus,” or something like that, and I remember thinking at the time: “Well, wouldn’t Jesus kind of be bothered by rudeness?” I will give her credit, though: I know other contestants in the past would have been waaaaaaay more obnoxious about it (and have been, in re: the immunity idol, etc.).

Maybe it’s a sort of sticking point for me because other evidence (i.e., her interaction with James) has shown her to be a nice person, and from watching for all these seasons, I am afraid that this is foreshadowing a big self-righteousness showdown shootout. Which, I hope not. I want to be wrong about this lady. Is that weird?

(Hey, I said this open-mindedness would give me a headache.)

Here’s an interesting article on Todd (Gay Flight Attendant):

http://jam.canoe.ca/…/4509326-sun.html

Turns out he was supposed to be on last season’s survivor and they said he could come back this season because he was too young. So he had months to prepare.

I’d say that’s a pretty good advantage.

If I was him I’d learn how to:

  • Cook rice on an open fire
  • Start a fire with a shoe lace and a couple of sticks (fire drill)

MtM

If Buddha wants to welcome me to his country, and to receive that welcome I must kneel, well then kneel I will. I don’t think my Jewish G-d will hold me in contempt for it. Especially because I’m being welcomed, not praying.
If I went to someone’s house, and didn’t greet the host, wouldn’t it be appropriate for someone to say I should? That’s what I saw when the monk was correcting Courtney’s hands. “This is how we say hello.” (Plus a little, “Can I touch your Gwen Stefani-ness?”)
And to preempt the “It’s different to say hi, than to bow to a statue”, I’d reply "Don’t we acknowledge authority? Your Father, Your Boss, The President? I show some sort of respect to authority.

But on the other hand, there’s no law against being rude. I’m sure the Buddhists welcomed her even if she wasn’t in the room to hear it. And Jesus was laughing at her like a parent does an inappropriate child.

Too much? sorry, it bothered me a bit I guess. It seems like she may have some game (making friends with the loner, who can win immunity at the end), so we may see her for a bit.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the producers often seem to go out of there way to create these “controversial” moments. This seemed to be one of them: Oh goody, let’s take a religious person and make them do something we know they’ll feel uncomfortable about, and then show them being uncomfortable. And let’s throw in a “it’s not a religious ceremony” comment so we can pretend we don’t understand why they’re uncomfortable.

It sure looked like a religious ceremony to me.

But yeah, the “I’m not very religious” was a little confusing. Maybe she meant she isn’t tied to a particular church.

So, every other person who’s ever been on Survivor was just walking down the street when a black van pulled up beside them, Jeff jumped out and said, “You’re going on Survivor, get in.”?

Seriously, your comment makes no sense to me. Everyone who goes on Survivor has to apply to be on, and I’d assume they send in their audition tapes months in advance. Ok, so you don’t know if you’re going to actually get picked or not, but it still only makes sense in my mind to use those months to prepare, just in case. I’ve never understood why, in all these years, there hasn’t been one person who spent some time before the show learning how to start a fire, or how to catch fish, or even how to build a decent shelter from trees and branches.

…and, let’s not get into theological hair splitting. I am sure there is some technicality because of which kneeling to a golden Buddha is not worshipping, but I am sure that to her beliefs, it was not kosher.

You can tell a vegetarian that you consider cows to be a form of flower, but that doesn’t mean they have to eat it happily.

Amen. This has always been a real puzzler to me. I don’t know how much time happens between the time they are accepted and the time they are shipped. Still, it kills me that after 14 seasons, people still get there and look surprised that there are mosquitoes, mud, muddy water and no matches.

Still, it is not the same knowing that you will go in a year than believing that maybe you have some chance of being chosen. Just like people drive a car for years without knowing how to change a tyre, because they don’t think it will happen to them. Counting on an off chance is not the same as planning for a certainty.

Ovo-lacto Vegetarians eat dairy products right? And aren’t cows a “dairy product”? :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley: Thus my 24 oz Porterhouse would be OK?

But you make a point. It failed the “duck test” on being a “religous ceremony”.

That’s right. It doesn’t really matter if the Buddhists considered it a worship ceremony or not…if someone’s interpretation of the first commandment is that you don’t bow down before statues, then you’re not going to want to do it no matter what they tell you. But like I said, I would have probably tried to figure out a way to fake it.

I meant to ask/comment: no Exile Island?

I’m a lacto-ovo-pisco-carno-vegetarian. :smiley:

I don’t blame Christian Radio Host for being uncomfortable. It sure seemed like a worship service to me. IMHO, it would be disrespectful of the ceremony to participate if your heart isn’t in it. It would be like taking Communion but thinking, “Nice snack, but this a load of bunk”. I don’t think Christian Radio Host would have had a problem if the monks had just welcomed them in the temple and performed the rituals on their behalf.

I bet there were other contestants that also felt uncomfortable, but were too chicken to speak up.

Ummm no of course not. But think about it. Most contestants who apply don’t train until they know they have been picked. Even when they know they’ve been picked how much time could they have realistically? 3 months? Maybe 4? Todd had easily twice the amount of time than a “normal” contestant. I would think this would give him a distinct advantage (training wise) over his other competitors.

MtM

Doesn’t seem to be. I guess that means no HIIs, either.

I’m good with that…I’d like for one season to go back to the “classic” survivor. Sometimes I have trouble keeping track of everything when there are so many elements to the game. (I’m simpleminded, I know!)

We know he’s a professional poker player, but is there any evidence he’s a good poker player? Maybe he inherited $10 million from his daddy and he’s been losing it ever since.

Hell, my cat walked over to me and said “meow, Todd’s totally a gay flight attendant, meow.” I didn’t even know cats could talk.

I’ll bet you lots of money that in three months, I could get fire-making-with-sticks down pat. And during the same time, get so that I could build a pretty decent shelter with nearly any kinds of trees and bushes. If Todd really did go in with some kind of advantage from training, it’s far more likely to be because he trained at all while the other players did not train at all. My point remains: I don’t really see any evidence that any of the players do any training before they go on.