Sorry if I was unclear - I meant the winners get to go to the fancy clubhouse, but they also have to send one member of their own tribe to exile.
Maybe would work better if tied to the reward challenge instead of immunity.
If someone was on the outs and thought he/she was likely to be sent to exile, they might not work too hard to help their tribe get a reward. Could shake up alliances somewhat.
As I said, I only watched parts of yesterday’s show. Was there just the one challenge? Do folks anticipate that there will still be reward challenges, or is simply going to the fancy camp sufficient reward in itself?
Sorry, but I think that crosses too far over the line into punishing people for winning, and I don’t think they’ll do that–it’s contary to the entire purpose of the show. They come back across that line the other way, though, by rewarding those who survive adversity–the whole idea of hiding the immunity idol on exile island, or only giving exiles clues.
I liked it, probably more than I usually do this early on. The game doesn’t usually get real interesting until the merge, but the novelty of the camp building effort kept me interested. I wonder if none of them actually made any comments like “why are we only building one camp”, or if those comments were edited out so as not to “spoil” the non-surprise surprise? Surely someone must’ve said something!
Too bad for Jessica. She was my early favorite, just going by looks. But I don’t think that tribe had anyone obvious to vote off and they were clearly not well organized. I would’ve voted for Afro-girl, just because she was the most negative (assuming I hadn’t already made an alliance with her).
I’ve been waiting seasons for continuous tribe scrambles, but I guess it’s not practical in the long run. I felt bad for Sylvia, though. Undoubtedly, that tribe separation was supposed to go differently before somebody quit. The producers scrambled, and she got screwed. It wasn’t until the challenge had begun that I realized that no matter what, she wouldn’t get to go back to the shelter, which probably wouldn’t have been built nearly as well if not for her expertise. Poor woman.
And before I forget, that stuff with Boo in the previews? We had to rewind the bit with the hammock like three times. I’m a bad person.
I dunno. XI isn’t all that bad, and she gets a clue to the HII, as well as immunity from being voted off at the first TC. Remember, you pretty much have to spend some time on XI in order to win, especially with two HIIs-- or at least you will have to to ensure you get very far.
I would have made BOO, the construction guy in charge since building things is his trade. I can gaurantee you that Sylvia hasn’t swung a hammer in a while…
I’ve been saying for years that what they need to do is (randomly) scramble the tribes before every single immunity challenge. Think of what that would do to the strategy of the game: Until the merge, you just couldn’t count on your alliance. Spend days building your wonderful trusted majority, and then boom, find yourself at the next tribal with half your alliance on the other team. And after the merge, pretty much no one could have loyalty to their “original tribe”, since no trible stayed the same for more than three days. I would love, LOVE to see that. My main gripe about Survivor is that the strategy is too well known; the only real fun is in watching stupid people shoot themselves in the foot. I’d be much more interested in watching people forced to devise an entirely new kind of strategy.
If I get nothing else right this season, at least I correctly predicted “Dreamz” would be a jackass. I’m afraid it’s only just begun. Gary is a carptenter. He said in his video that he wouldn’t make any unsolicited suggestions, and apparently he didn’t.
So, do you think the tribes will continue at their currently assigned locations (luxury vs deprivation)? It’s possible whichever tribe wins the reward challenge will go to the luxury beach so that there will be some switching back and forth. It could also be interesting if the tribe winning the reward got an option such as ‘either take a clue towards finding the immunity idol but live on the deprivation beach OR give the other tribe the clue and go to the luxury beach.’ Could lead to discord. Can’t have enough of that.
Anyone else notice how ethically diverse this season is?
Was this inspired by the previous season’s ratings? Or is it just a fluke?
Not that I’m complaining. I love it.
I don’t get the Erika hate. Although I didn’t agree with her sour grapes stance, I admire her gamesmanship. I don’t see anything wrong with trying to find a couple of people who can act as allies for you…even though it can be risky so early in the game. Plus, I like her wild afro and her toughness. She seems like someone who will call 'em like she sees 'em.
I hope the hyperactive Dreamz was just a one-night thing, 'cuz he was working my nerves.
Sylvia bugged me with the “it’s not orthogonal” remark. It doesn’t take too much intelligence to realize that someone who doesn’t know the first word will not know the second. I think she was being a smart-ass. So I wasn’t sympathizing with her 100% when Rocky (who’s a brute) came down on her. Even if it was unintentional, she still needed to be reminded of her audience. (But “askew”, Rocky? How can you not know that word?)
As far as I recall, Erica (the woman with the Afro) didn’t voice her unhappiness about the new camp to her teammates, she did it to the camera. So she didn’t necessarily complain around the other players. She seemed aware of the importance of going with the crowd - when the others decided to vote off her ally Jessica, she was unwilling to vote against her but she didn’t argue with the others.
Since the HII is an individual thing, I don’t know whether they’ll do that, exactly, but it’s possible that they’ll offer some kind of trade at a reward challenge – say, winning tribe gets the option of returning to their shelter, OR they can stay at the losers’ beach until the next challenge and take What’s Behind Door #2 (e.g., feast, or family visit, or opportunity to permanently commandeer a member of the other tribe, or chance to vote out/save someone at the next TC).
Then again, maybe not. Hard to say with these people sometimes.
I finally got around to watching it tonight. (Thank you, Tivo.)
The producers HAVE to allow the winners of each immunity challenge to get the luxury camp for the next three days. Otherwise, one team will have a huuuuuuge advantage over the other, which defeats the whole point of the game.
As long as there is Pagonging, one team will always have a huge advantage over the other. One thing I like about Survivor is that, with one notable exception, it doesn’t try to level the playing field. Strongest and smartest gets to accumulate advantages over time. But then, toward the end, when the jury is forming, a new dynamic is introduced, and finesse can carry the day over brute force.
The exception, incidentally, was giving fire to the hapless team from last year’s social experiment season. Shouldn’t have done that.
No fire is rough. If I were on the losing team, I’d kayak over to the winner’s camp and take a burning log. IIRC, there was only one team who successfully made fire without flint, and that team had a magnifying glass.
Woohoo, my sister had the premiere on tape and let me borrow it. How sad do you have to be to drive two towns over to pick up a tape for Survivor? That’s an embarassing amount of effort to watch a guilty pleasure.
Where are the hotties? Jessica was close enough to count, but she’s already gone. The tiny asian chick is pretty tight, but otherwise it’s seriously slim pickins this season. How is that possible when half the contestants came from California?
Sylvia did a good job assembling the teams, but may have put a “guys vs girls” idea into the minds of all the guys considering that she didn’t assign a single guy to either team until she’d assigned all the women. That seemed odd to me in general; maybe she’s a crazy cat lady. Also: hey Sylvia, would it have killed you to use the word “crooked”?
So far my early favorites to root for are Rocky and Erika.
As for the HI clue, my early prediction is that they are in the caves, assuming a cave is located near the loser camp. I base this on the rhyme in the clue: (The clue had no emphasis on any words; bold illustrates my train of thought.)
It’s not here (mumble mumble) the idol you crave,
Look back at camp if you want to be saved.
In press for last season’s premiere, I remember reading how they wanted to use the racial gimmick to get rid of the stereotype that (whatever) minority couldn’t do well because of lack of past success. They made a point of saying that they wanted to incorporate far more minorites forevermore, so they were counting on a good season from the racial gimmick.
As for ratings, no, IIRC last season was one of the (if not the) lowest rated seasons ever.