I got a Nigeria bank scam email today. Now the email says that the original owner of the money, a Carlos Montoya, died in 9/11.
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IN THE NAME OF OG AND CUTE NEWBORN PUPPIES, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU INPUT A NATIONAL TRAGEDY? Is it supposed to make it sound more legit? Make the mark feel sympathy for whoever “died?” It’s even worse than running the scam in the first place! For the most part, at least from what I’ve seen, people have moved on from the sick memory of what happened that day. THAT DOESN’T GIVE YOU THE FUCKING RIGHT TO CHEAPEN IT AND PUT IT IN YOUR SCAM, YOU SMACKTARDS! :mad:
And that last sentence looks very messed up. What, did he crash into it daily until his death in the terrorist attacks? (Sorry, I’m a grammar nazi.)
There’s lots of updates and variations out there. My favorite was one where the Nigerian dude wasn’t dead but stuck on Mir because of the last shuttle tragedy.
Yes, it’s to add an air of authenticity; as well as to discourage the marks from investigating (it’s a sensitive area that many people don’t want to dig into).
These scammers are thieves and quite probably violent thugs too, possibly even murderers; you can’t really expect a lot of moral fibre.
But you can laugh at the scammers, courtesy of the Ebola Monkey Man. He scams the scammers, stringing them along and conning them into sending him photos of themselves, often holding signs that say things like “Father Will U Tuchme”. I especially love the photo of the one squatting under an umbrella holding a sign that says, “It’s Raining Men”.
I’ve received many 419-type scams that make mention of national tragedies, e.g. the civil war in Ivory Coast or Sierra Leone. I don’t see how injecting a US national tragedy is any worse. And the civil war in Sierra Leone caused many more deaths than the attacks of 11 September 2001.
I just got a new one recently where they inserted my last name into their form letter. So now it reads-
“Dear. Mr. Hampshire,
We have not met, but we are related. My name is Mr. Robert Hampshire”
Hey! The guys got my same last name! This must be legit!!
Arnold, I’ve only gotten the straight 419. This was the first one I’d been sent that mentioned a tragedy. Usually I’d get that the guy had a sudden heart attack or died in a car crash or something.
I’m sorry if I offended you. Putting ANY tragedy into a scam, no matter what country the tragedy affects, is sick, twisted and shouldn’t work as well as it seems to.
Apart from one moron here in Australia who apparently fell for the trick, is there anyone, anywhere in this big wide world who does not know about the infamous Nigerians?
In other words, I don’t think the scam really works all that well.
I used to string them along, too, pretending that I sympathized with them and had a lot of money to throw away, but launching into rambling non-sequitors and asking completely irrelevant questions, pretending to be psychotic, giving them bad info–but never as much as these guys. It’s amazing how much nonsense scammers will ignore in their persistence.
I don’t know if it’s their desparation when someone finally bites, or that they actually get a good number of really naive people. In any case, when you get an anonymous email from someone in Africa claiming to be from a rich family and offering to just give you hundreds of thousands of dollars for creating a bank account, I don’t know anyone who would believe it, especially when they start asking you to send moneygrams. I’ve got to wonder how much they actually make from this.
Ebola Monkey Man’s obsession goes to such great lengths, I’m somtimes tempted to think maybe he got burned by a 419 once, but he’s clearly too smart for that. And what’s the deal with pretending to think that all the scammers are Jewish?
LadySybil, I wasn’t offended. I do sometimes get the impression that catastrophes in Africa don’t seem to register on the world consciousness as much as those that happen in other places.
I haven’t taken the time to read a 419 e-mail carefully for a while now, but I remember a couple of years ago that when I did read them, I estimated that about half mentioned some person in West AFrica whose family member died in the civil war or was a refugee from a civil war or had the risk of being imprisoned by some dictator. Maybe the tenor of those e-mails have changed now.
I know what you mean dropzone. I only wish that the the US government’s policy position, so keen on
[del]eliminating weapons of mass destruction[/del]
[del]getting rid of Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin-Laden[/del]
[del]guaranteeing oil reserves[/del]
freeing the poor Iraqi people from the despotism of a tyrant, would be to spend a tenth of what is going towards Iraq right now, for the improvement of human rights and health conditions in Africa.