Tammany Hall

Can anyone explain just what was Tammany Hall, and briefly run through its history? As far as I’ve been able to gather, it was originally just a lodge or men’s social club in New York that somehow became active in politics, and specifically with the Democratic Party, beginning sometime in the first half of the 19th century. I recall reading or hearing that the organization was still influential well into the 20th century, despite the breaking of the Tweed Ring, and that it played a role in the nominations of FDR and even JFK.

Does the organization, or its “Hall” still exist in NYC?

Columbia Encyclopedia on Tammany Hall

It notes that it “passed out of existence as a political machine” in the late 1960s, but do not mention whether there is still such an organization, anywhere.

There are also numerous similar links at About.com Tammany

An interesting sidelight can be found in this history of “St.” Tammany

If you want to know about William Marcy “Boss” Tweed (without a lot of the mythology that’s grown up around him) try Tweed’s New York by Mark Herskovits.

Thanks for the responses so far. It looks as though my memory is correct regarding FDR and JFK.

The Tweed Ring was only a small part of the history of Tammany Hall. The Hall was actually founded around 1800 as a social club, named after St. Tammany – a misspelling of a Delaware Indian leader, supposedly the one who sold Manhattan to Peter Minuet. The facts were wrong – “Tammany” was a misspelling of an Indian involved with a land sale in the Philadelphia area, and, of course, he was not a saint.

Aaron Burr is usually credited with the idea of turning Tammany into a political force. By the 1840s, they were the major political force in NYC politics.

Tweed went for the money. He blatantly stole from the city, demanding kickbacks, and providing kickbacks to the contractors involved. If a job would normally cost, say $1000, Tweed would pay the contractor $2000, keep $500, and give him $500 off the top. It was a great deal for everyone except the taxpayers.

The Tweed Ring fell apart when their treasurer died in a carriage accident. The new guy sent information to the NY Times, and the ring collapsed.

But Tweed was replaced by John Kelley, who moved to a more sophisticated form of corruption. The Tammany Tiger appointed all city positions, and all city workers were expected to donate to to Tammany Hall. If you wanted a promotion – well, your “donation” was expected to be much more generous.

At the same time, Tammany was involved in controlling the elections to remain in power. Part of this was by giving voters what they wanted – the poor got coal in the winter, everyone was given free picnics in the summer, etc. If you needed a job, Tammany would find one for you (even if it was busy work on the city payroll). That meant a lot in the days when there was no unemployment insurance. So the corruption was not necessarily a bad thing for many New Yorkers.

Part was satisfying the various ethnic groups in the city (for much of its power, Tammany was primarily Irish, but knew the importance of pleasing various ethnic groups). Candidates were chosen with the right ethnic mix,* ensuring the vote from the various ethnic groups in the city. Tammany bigwigs would show up at funerals and weddings and be generous in their gifts.

They also owned Tammany Hall – the only gathering place in the city for political meetings – and managed to shut down several attempts at reform by merely turning off the lights or locking the doors.

There also was voter fraud – Tammany would hire people to vote multiple times for their candidates.

Kelly was succeeded by Richard Croker and later Charles Murphy, both of whom were hard-nosed about keeping Tammany’s power intact. During Murphy’s reign, he was powerful enough to get the governor of New York impeached.

However, after Murphy’s death, Tammany began to slowly decline. The corruption began to be dealt with, the Seabury Commission getting Tammany Mayor Jimmy Walker kicked out of office. By the time LaGuardia became mayor in 1933, Tammany was no longer the only power in NYC politics. The civil service laws took away their ability to control patronage, and better voter registration laws made the vote fraud much more difficult.

Tammany remained active, though, and their support was important for anyone running for mayor. They became a powerful special interest, though still within the law. And outside the law, their interests in prostitution and other illegal activities brought them in contact with organized crime, though they worked to eliminate that tie by the 50s.

Carmine Di Sapio became its leader in the 50s (a major change – Tammany was traditionaly Irish-based, and hated Italians). Di Sapio was honest enough, though his physical appearance hurt (he always wore sunglasses due to an eye condition, which made him come off as shifty). In addition, he made some bad choices and pissed off some Democratic candidates for governor, cutting off his power in the state (In one case, he refused to give his support to Averil Harriman, who got elected dispite him – not a good thing for the Hall). Finally, Democrats began to run against Tammany; it actually became a burden to have their endorsement by the 60s.

I’m not sure if they still exist; the last Tammany Hall building is now an arts center. There’s probably a group of people somewhere meeting under the banner of Tammany, but they no longer have any influence in the city.

*Harry Golden tells the story of one person being elected judge because they wanted a Jewish candidate and all the ones they were considering couldn’t make it to the meeting when the candidates were announced due to bad weather. Finally, one of the Tammany people asked those attending, “Are there any Jewish lawyers in the audience?” There was, he volunteered and was elected.

RealityChuck

Is that at Park Ave. south and 17th?

Cal, modern historians generally believe that Tweed’s middle name was not Marcy; it was Magear.

That sounds right. There’s a picture here.

During most of their power, the Tammany Wigwam (as it was called) was a couple of blocks south on 14th Street.

Note that Tweed was not typical of Tammany. He was a thief who enriched himself and his buddies using the Hall’s power, but he wasn’t as interested in the political power the later bosses used.

Tammany under Kelley, Croker, and Murphey was the model big city political machine. They ran the city and got rich not from blatantly taking millions, but rather taking smaller amounts from a bigger base. They also held onto their power ruthlessly.

True. The “Marcy” was a yellow journalism trick to connect Tweed with another Tammany politician with a last name of Marcy who ended up at the center of some scandal some years previously.

William Marcy was a figure in the “Albany Regency” of the 1830’s, who ended up becoming Governor and Secretary of State. He was, however, too obscure a figure when Tweed was born, in (I believe) 1822.

A mild correction. Tammany Hall didn’t control New York City politics, they controlled New York County (e.g., Manhattan) politics. In fact, they often had trouble handling the Bronx and Brooklyn Democratic County chairs (among which were Ed “Not In In The Way Errol Was” Flynn).

As a side note, Tammany Hall is reponsible for the nickname of Atlanta’s baseball team.

That franchise started in Boston (in 1871) and at one point was owned by a group of NYC businessmen who were influential in Tammany Hall politics. The Tammany grouped like to give out Indian-based nicknames to its members, such as “Braves” and in 1912, the Braves ownership decided to adopt that as the team’s nickname.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/mgrtmab7.shtml

True. As a matter of fact, FDR was able to ignore Tammany because he had the support of the Bronx Democratic machine.

And Brooklyn didn’t matter to Tammany before 1899 – it was a separate city. However, once Brooklyn became part of NYC, Tammany’s influence began to dilute (though it took a long time before they could mount a challenge). And the Bronx wasn’t a big factor for a long time, since Manhattan had many more voters.