Tea partiers waffle over cutting defense budget

I’ll definitely go along with that. Even if what you actually meant to say was “any less coherent or intelligent”. :stuck_out_tongue:

I can think of one program they could cut for wastefulness right off the bat.

But it has a Blue Ribbon! And that’s one of the colors in Red, White and Blue!!

Why do you hate America?

Mace, for God’s sake that’s bullshit and you’re grown up enough to know it. I’m no knee jerk lefty (or anything, for that matter) but I have the experience and the balls to call a hypocrite a hypocrite.

And that’s what we see here, predictable as day. Any candidate, from either side, who campaigns on spending reductions or deficit control or balanced budget or debt reduction and then later backpedals on defense or entitlements deserve the term ‘waffler’ or ‘hypocrite’ or even ‘opportunist’. It’s insincerity or naivete to think that those budgetary goals can be achieved without taking a damn axe to all elements of the federal government.

In fact, that’s likely what’s going to be required to control spending and get it though both houses (if anything can): across the board cuts in all spending categories. Anything else will avoid the ‘shared pain’ argument that will make such a bill palatable to the general electorate.

Honestly, the Tea Party folks who are facing this are running into one of the oldest political realities in the world: it is easier to oppose than to govern. Combine that with the first political adage I learned in poli-sci: the first goal of an elected official is his or her reelection and you get a recipe for backpedaling, or waffling if you will, from anyone who is serious about staying in congress.

Frankly, any of them who DIDN’T go into this knowing these decisions were coming were unready for prime time and don’t deserve the offices they now hold.

But they do it with a syrupy southern accent.

Reminds me of this Ben Sargent cartoon. The guy on the left is Rick Perry, mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate; of course, he’d have to forget that secession & “gov’mint is evil” talk. And he got that degree at Texas A&M!

Hey, this just in from Governor Good Hair:

Sorry if this is drifting off topic of defense spending. But it definitely belongs in The Pit!

A [del]Disingenuous[/del] Clever Ruse:

Senate Tea Party Caucus holds first meeting without some who had embraced banner

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It’s clear to me that Tea Partiers and other conservatives are people with loads of aggression and beefing up the military is one way of expressing that aggression.

They don’t really care about the deficit, that’s just a battlefront from which they can attack people who they consider their enemies.

Bah. If they cannot afford to pay high tuition, let them drop dead and decrease the surplus population.

That has to be a joke, right? There’s no way he actually said all that.

That’s a bit unfair. Rubio is very much an establishment Republican; before he was a Senator, he was the Speaker of the Florida House. And his argument that a Tea Party Caucus is pretty much the opposite of the point of a the Tea Party (such as it may be said to have one) is a good one.

I am crying the worlds tinest river.
Fairness matters not a whit to these conservative opportunists.

Perry is an Aggie?

Yeah, I was going to say, are you sure that’s not an Onion story? Not that the notion of Perry saying this is outside the realm of possibility, but that’s pretty outrageous even for him.

It’s not from the Onion, but it is a joke story.

Not too much work, but it’s not really the topic of this thread. This about the Tea Party as a whole. Under out political system, people join together to have a louder voice and more influence than they can as individuals. Everyone seems to agree that the Tea Party influenced the results of the last election. So how do we evaluate them? Who are their spokesmen, what are their priorities, and how fervently do they stand by those priorities? Let them nail their colors to the mast.

If this isn’t waffling now, it’s only because they’ve been too gutless to say anything they could be held to account for.

Yup, he was a yell leader. And I was fooled by the article, which now has a note saying “(A nice bit of snark & satire for your Friday… - promoted by Phillip Martin)” The thing is–it’s not hard to imagine Perry saying all that stuff. Just probably not in public. And the links in the piece are all true!

Published by the Burnt Orange Report. A bunch of liberal Teasips eager to roast Aggie fools…

I have no doubt that he had splendid marks in Animal Husbandry.

Well, one of the biggest things they wanted to do was vote to overturn HCR, and they already did that. Otherwise, though, it’s not like they’re a regular political party with leaders and spokesmen. They just aren’t.

As for their priorities, I already linked to the Contract From America. If want to grade them against anything, grade them against that. But grading them against something that it’s unclear is a priority for them is just ignorant.

I’m sure there’s a joke about horses’ asses somewhere in there, but I can’t quite figure it out.

I thought their biggest priority as a group was to lower the deficit. Or to lower taxes (I’ve seen references that TEA stands for “taxed enough already”). I’m sure there’s some overlap with the anti-government-health-care folks, but was that central to the Tea Partiers? The CBO says that law will lower the deficit, which seems in conflict with their other goals. Maybe that’s their defense against charges of waffling; their positions are so contradictory that no matter what happens, they can dig up a cite of someone who was for it all along.

Or as I said before, they want all the power of being a party with none of the accountability. That makes them gutless.