That is a complete and total misrepresentation. Even if 5 months of the year represents the amount of time worked to pay taxes (and my overall rate is significantly lower than that, despite being a high earner) that tax money does not go solely towards the benefit of everyone else.
Much of it goes to programs the payer either benefits from now or later, such as SS or Medicare. Other amounts go to defense, law and order, the environment etc which again are not payments for others, but instead payments for ourselves and others.
As am I, and I also think that it’s an obligation to help those who haven’t been as fortunate as I.
Perhaps Starving Artist might want to rethink his reasoning. The odds are fairly good that I make more than he does, so assuming that the only reason anyone would think differently from him is that they want a “handout” is remarkably… well, stupid.
Man, I wish Bricker was right about Jesus, because I’d love to see the expression on Bricker’s face when Jesus kicks his sorry selfish ass into hell. “Didn’t you pay attention to anything I said, you schmuck!”
Not so much that they themselves want a handout but that those who aren’t wanting handouts for themselves still want it for others, and for the reasons I described. Either they feel hopeless themselves, or they feel hopeless for someone else on their behalf.
And when I talk about working five months a year for the government, I mean just that. Yes, some of that goes to roads and some to law enforcement and some to space exploration, but still all of that is going for the public good. So the amount we pay in taxes is money we contribute to society even if not every cent is going into social programs.
And the five month period I said most of us work includes not only federal income tax, but Soc. Sec., Medicare and state income taxes. And of course then there’s exise tax, property tax, city sales tax and so forth. In fact I’d be surprised if most don’t pay more than fifty percent of their income in taxes in one form or another.
And I’ve spent a considerable portion of my own money helping other people, some of whom were people that many other people wouldn’t consider derserving of it. I am far from a selfish person who doesn’t care about anyone else.
But I still think that government redistribution of income is wrong, that being forced to help other people is wrong, and that the more that government pays for things, the more power it has over you. Remember when you were a child and your parents called all the shots? And why was that? It was because you had to depend on them and it was their money that was providing for your needs. Same thing now with government. If you let the government start providing for your needs, you’ll wind up with a new parent calling the shots, only you won’t ever get to actually see that parent, nor make any headway on getting it to change its mind, or following other than established procedures for dealing with your problems, or giving a shit about you as a person. It will be a parent that doesn’t know you, doesn’t care about you as a person, and whose main function is to get you even more dependent upon it so it can have an easier time making you do what it wants. Everyone hates dealing with customers and problems. Imagine how great it would be to be in control of your customers so that they have no choice but to do what you say and take what you tell them they can have. Simple and easy-peasy, huh? Well, that’s what drives government beaurocrats, and they get away with it because their customers (or children) have no choice.
Yeesh. I regret every serious post I’ve ever directed at you in the apparently vain hope that you were a reasonable person with whom I could engage in discussion. It is now clear you are not. You are a complete muppet.
Doesn’t that presume that people’s pay will be exactly (or, at least, to within a reasonable margin) what it is worth to do that job? That people are being paid a certain amount doesn’t mean they have ipso facto worked to deserve that amount. And that there are unlimited higher paying jobs avaliable which are enough to counter whatever money is required to get said education?
I mean, at the moment, there seems to be something of a surplus of trained, educated people seeking work, along with people in general. There’s no guarantee that improving yourself as a candidate improves your odds at getting an equivalent job to your ability level to a similar extent.
What liberal policy suggests that this statement is true?
If you can point out the place where I endorsed or praised the mocking, please do so. The mocking was asinine. I was responding to “I have an idea. let’s cancel THEIR social security, THEIR medicare, and THEIR unemployment…” which was asinine as well, although in fairness not nearly AS asinine.
I have to drag my ass out of bed anyway, and I have to pay taxes anyway, so why not divert the money to something I think is good? I already pay for a lot of things - roads, military power, a court system, police deaprtment/FBI/Marshall/etc, FDA, BATF, welfare, social security, medicare, a lot of things. In an indirect way, I’m also paying for tax breaks, tariffs, and concessions made to businesses, and the salaries of auditors who watch those businesses.
All or nothing. If they get a full refund, oh well, but no guarantees ( and no interest, or cost of living/inflation factored in) - after all, a guarantee would be sucking on the public teat, wouldn’t it? Besides, as you yourself like to say, they will be in a bad spot because they made bad decisions (so let them rot).
And from someone who is too stupid to comprehend the meaning of the word “hypocrite?” Yeah, I think I’ll lose not one jot of sleep worrying over your opinion, you brain-dead assmunch.