Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread

What I am amused by this statement is either I’m a shit liar and you can “see right through me” or I’m a master liar and, what, I “slipped up” on a message board where I can review what I type? Both statements cannot both be true.

Paying a local girl (and yes, she’s local, she introduced me to her mom one drunken night) to fuck me isn’t supporting trafficking or organized crime.

Correct. My only note here is that “105k” is not much of a climb, the average for my specific degree is 130k. 105k is entry level in many places. I know I am getting screwed at 80k.

Correct. My greatest aspiration is to become a more specialized cog. No different than an aerospace engineer in 1950 wanting to become more specialized in jet engines, knowing the field would see huge growth and improvements. (I want to be more specialized in robotics or machine learning)

$500 is not cheap in the hooking world, at least in the South. My last STD test was clean, though I probably have genital warts. (they are so common the normal test panel doesn’t test for them)

A few details. The $500 a fuck hooker was a sugar baby. She was primarily working as a stripper as her day job and I met her on a site where I have to show my photo as well, and convince her to pick me, etc. It’s not quite the same relationship as traditional prostitution. It still basically is that, but it’s something where you have somewhat of an ongoing relationship with the girl, I have been to her apartment, petted her dog, got her drunk several times, and so on. She later bought a car with the thousands of dollars I had given her and came and picked me up and gave me rides in it. She later crashed it.

Was I “corrupting” this 22 year old woman? Absofuckinglutely. But what we did is de facto legal (“mistress” style relationships are legal), she’s a consenting adult, and I don’t regret it in the slightest.

Also I got tested before fucking her bareback. I haven’t picked up any STDs except probably genital warts, which 90% of adults get eventually.

I have also gone to Eastern Europe where I have fucked hookers in Eastern Europe, for local prices. I seriously doubt they were “trafficked”. Was I taking advantage of these young (adult) girls selling their bodies in a somewhat seedy brothel? Fuck yes. Also there were a dozen local men who look like extras from the Taken movies I’d see coming in and out of that brothel. So, well, when in Rome.

Thank you for some goddamn sanity in this thread. Everyone else just lets wolfpup spout whatever. The flaw in wolfpups thinking…the same flaw pointed out by the freakonomics authors, when they are talking in their wheelhouse, is fossil fuels provide a huge economic benefit on a national level. And CO2 capture/sequestration requires roughly as much or more money to remove a ton of CO2 as the polluters gained in value when they emitted it! It’s a losing situation, the economic arrows make fixing the problem essentially unfeasible.

That genetics determine penis size or that there’s correlation between “races” and penis size? A bit of googling shows the first part is pretty much an undisputed fact. The second part, well, it seems the definition of ‘race’ is fuzzy and rather arbitrary. Are South Koreans a different ‘race’ than Japanese? To Western eyes there doesn’t seem to be much difference, but it seems to matter.

You cannot possibly be serious.

If you’re too fucking stupid to see that calling someone an ethnic slur because of the color of their skin is similar to calling them a peckerwood because of the contents of their trousers, you are truly a moron.

What do you think makes someone’s skin a particular color? What makes someone’s dick grow to a particular size?

Think, dumbass, think.

Which “race” is well known to have micro-penises?

That is very far from being the central point of my post.

Some of you are basically begging the question in defining “trafficking” as “sex workers without proper documentation being exploited by a greedy employer who takes advantage of their undocumented status for their own benefit”. Why does this not apply to every undocumented Latin American immigrant who picks lettuce or cleans toilets? (Answer: because sex.)

This is too high a bar. Many of us, probably most of us, work at jobs we don’t love and might hate. If we work for a capitalist enterprise and make under $100K, we are almost certainly being exploited in terms of unfair compensation for the value we provide (Google “Marx surplus value” if you are not familiar with the concept.)

People seem to think there is something uniquely wrong with doing sex work unless you love it. I am challenging that notion.

These OTOH are excellent points. I can’t rebut any of them.

Orange. :smiley:

Buddy… your reference comes not from a scientific journal, nor from a reputable research institution. The study was conducted by Tenga, a Japanese sex toy company, and their data collection process used “self measurement”.
On top of that, Tenga was the sponsor of the news site you attempted to use as a primary reference. So you basically just used an ad from a gossip column to back up what you think is science.
Of course they’re going to say that South Koreans have smaller dicks. Do you have any fucking idea of the cultural attitudes those two countries have for each other? Have you any clue about the geopolitical rivalry between the two countries? The “study” was simply another way to promote their product, gain brand awareness, and poke fun of their frenemies to the west, South Korea.

Your cite doesn’t prove what you think it does. In fact, the only thing it proves is that you are deserving of everything people are saying about you in this thread. You are blissfully ignorant and delusional.

Bravo, Skywatcher!

That’s low, man.

That’s OK, everything Sammy knows about climate science he got from SuperFreakonomics, which he appears to have studied assiduously. Armed with this kind of knowledge, Sammy goes forth to solve all the world’s problems, which all turn out to be trivial if you have Sammy’s giant throbbing brain and a few swarms of superintelligent nanobots.

Trafficking doesn’t even have to be of immigrants: women and boys are prostituted against their will in their own country every day, and this includes Americans in the US. That it is against their will doesn’t mean they spend every waking moment whimpering, it means they’d rather be almost anywhere else doing almost anything else they can think of.

I have not read anything this pathetic since that epic meltdown by Shaggy. Even if every word written to date is a lie, it’s a cry for help. I hope you find a way get your life right, Sammy. Because this… this is fucking tragic. And will not end well for you.

Specifically referencing a movie about trafficking to indicate that no trafficking is taking place…?

This comment is stupid. Why? Because in <a certain city in Eastern Europe> where would you traffic women from? There’s an estimated million sex workers in the city already and the price to fuck one is extremely low, why kidnap more? What economic incentive is there?

I was talking about sampling the wares on offer in Eastern Europe, specifically, Kiev.

Am I a bad person for trying out what’s on offer, like several million other men do a year? Hence my “when in Rome” comment, by local standards of morality the answer is a clear and resounding no.

This is an older book but one that I found very interesting.

The author of this book conducted extensive interviews and research into legal brothels and the women that work in them. What I found illuminating was that, even in the world of legal prostitution, most of the women that work there had been either groomed or coerced into the job by a husband or boyfriend. Not all pimps wear funny hats.

And if Samuel A has an STD, which he admits he does, he shouldn’t keep on having unprotected sex with hookers and spreading it. And people that want to legitimize sex work should be the strongest objectors to this behavior.

Umm, no, I don’t admit that? Quote it. Also, uh, somehow I doubt the author of this book went to Eastern Europe or knows anything about modern ‘sugar baby’ websites.

From the description, nope, USA only. So maybe I’m a dirtbag for wanting to fuck 22 year old 9.5/10 Ukrainians. Obviously I am not born with near perfect looks and no probable sequence of events would see me in a long term relationship with one. (though I am trying). If so, judge all you want, but I don’t fucking care. Just get your facts straight.

Let’s say that Bob points out that children are being separated from their families and never reunited with them, being put into orphanages and turned into messed up adults who commit crime, and John’s response is, “I’m just trying to make people understand that it’s illegal to enter the country.”

Would you say that John gives the impression that he’s paying enough attention to the whole body of information to make a reasonable and nuanced statement, or that he’s blasting over a bunch of stuff to hit a political point that he’s decided at some point in history and he will now simply not back down on regardless of anything, whether his position was well informed historically or not?

None of which is to say that John couldn’t come to the same conclusion, having taken in and digested all information, but it’s still nice to think that people are being mentally honest and knowingly accepting that the Nirvana fallacy is a fallacy, nothing is perfect. But I would expect some numbers that make me think that John believes that we’re looking at the best of all imperfect options.

Manoman if I hear any more about this Everest whackiness. (Storms off to Ricky’s at 24,000 for manicure and perm.)

Like Wayne “The Main Brain” McClean’s?

Cite.

90% of the adults he knows has them.