You cannot use the same techniques at that elevation.
Pretty sure you can. There is no magical difference between 10,000 feet and 30,000 feet except for a lack of oxygen. Mountain is still made of granite. Suspension cables still can span for a kilometer if you need to skip past ice flows and other unstable regions. Gravity and other forces are within a small percent. Also, fun fact, wind force is proportional to pressure, so some of the forces might actually be easier to deal with.
So your workers wear pressure suits. Pressure-compression suits if you can afford a custom run of them. (originally the U-2 spyplane pilots wore these, they are real). Advantage of these type of suits is they don’t balloon like spacesuits and it is more practical to work while wearing them.
Space suits are expensive and the work would go much slower and you get much less work done per worker per hour. Plus you need to train the workers in suit usage and probably pay them like divers.
So the project is expensive. Maybe too expensive to be done. I never claimed it was easy or even economically feasible, just clearly and obviously technically feasible.
Yes. Sammy’s the one who advocated for killing the elderly before they die of natural causes OR if they start showing any signs of mental decay. See, what you is, you kill them, cut their head off and then you cryogenically preserve their head. Later, when we can replicate the human brain with nanabots, you can defrost the head and move all those precious memories into nanobots brains. It’s simple! Not remotely horrid to argue for killing billions. Nope. He’s a peach! (And the science is spot. on.)
Or saving billions. The science that human consciousness, personality, and memories comes from the physical structure of the brain is spot on. Small sections of animal brain have been successfully frozen and revived, with neural electrical activity upon revival. So the basic idea seems like it has more traction than letting the elderly turn into corpses with absolute certainty on relatively short and predictable timescales.
“killing” is a point of view argument that is actually surprisingly slippery. Unfortunately, our moral systems are not really designed for advancing technology.
For example, the most plausible way all this would work is, one of your relatives is showing symptoms of Alzheimer’s disease. This person is examined by licensed physicians, and fMRIs reveal his/her brain is slowly going dark.
Rather than wait for your relative to turn into a corpse for certain, you make the decision to have him/her frozen. (you have power of attorney) Medicare provides the service, and a couple centuries later the frozen brain sample is scanned and an accurate computer emulation is run of your relative.
You are there to see it. (because 30 years later, when it’s your time, they are able to freeze you in a far more effective way, or rebuild your body so you don’t die in the first place)
Has your relative been murdered? Frankly there is no absolute way to answer that question. Also, such a computer emulation might in fact not match what you remember for numerous reasons, including things not related to the information loss from the freezing. So much of what we think of as “personality traits” may be due to organic flaws in our minds.
Anyways, I see it as a net good. You see it as killing billions. Guess we will have to disagree, but I think it’s pretty clear which way society will fall on this once we get closer to concrete realization of these ideas.
This is why we love you.
This would make a cool story if a time machine was involved. Then, when they first incise/decapitate the first volunteer to donate their head (probably a crypto-scientist), futuristic nanobots ooze out of the neck and take over all others through their necks to achieve a “true and total crypto society”.
I’d watch it.
JIC: copyright/Locriandisasterfilms2019
Oh sweet Jesus, he’s at it AGAIN.
I really wish there was a way to put a muzzle on him.
For those of us wise in the ways of SamAth, 1 “could” is equal to 1/12th of a “just”, if I’m doing the conversion right. Tripler? Can you confirm?
How many “obviouslys” is that?
I notice that that particular thread was closed shortly after our hero shoved his oar in to declare that all women can of course be reduced to waist-hip ratios and “other feature vectors” calculated from “a LIDAR scan”. This bloviating jargon-infested babbling pomposity combined with exactly the sort of shameless and oblivious misogyny one would expect from a self-proclaimed exploitative douchebag who brags about fantasies of sex tourism is, in fact, the archetypal SamuelA.
I don’t claim that the thread was closed because Sammy made an appearance, just sayin’ – the appearance of Sammy and/or SlackerInc seems to be frequently associated with a thread’s demise. I note also that the thread in IMHO in which a poster sort of tries to apologize a little for being a testosterone-infested horndog who instinctively objectifies women lacks Sammy’s participation and is still open. I assume Sammy elected not to participate in that thread because he couldn’t figure out what the guy could possibly be trying to apologize for.
That’s probably SamC.
Given that 1 “Just” = √(-1) ∙ 3.762 x 10^109 nanobots, 1 “Could” is 1/12 of a “Just” and is = √(-1) ∙ 3.135 x 10^108 nanobots. One “Could” is equal to the imaginary power of 3.135 x 10^8 times one googol [10x10^100] of nanobots’ power. [3.135 x 10^8 times a ‘nano’ of any unit equals 0.3135 units]
What does this mean in practice? This means that with one dim (0.3135 W)-witted idea times one Google search, SamuelA will post it. I think we’ve seen plenty of examples where this has been the case.
That’s open to debate.
Before I forget, here’s a status on the Great SamuelA Cheeto Banning Challenge 2019 competition:
Round #2 will open up on October 1st.
Here’s the rub: SamuelA has a pretty predictable pattern, where he’ll post all “nice-nice” for a period of time, offering “advice” and “facts/opinions” on things, and generally keeping his head down. Then he’ll fall into some sort of funk, will expose another trace of racism, and when called on it, will spiral down into another crash. With his suspension recently lifted, I think you can see the tone of his posts being “nice,” but now shifting down into a lower-brow sort of path. It’s a matter of time before we see the real SamuelA expose himself again, and I think that’ll coincide with the opening of Round #2. Fresh Cheetos will be provided to the winner. But I digress. . .
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I’d like to ask a few questions . . .
I remember reading about Orion. It was, as you call it, a “thought experiment” that never left ‘paperspace.’ How would propulsion charges help you? And how would you expect to generate sufficient blast overpressure in a vaccum?
The Kiwi and NERVA experiments worked better for propulsion, and are far more feasible to manufacture and use. I’ll toss you a bone, and tell you to look those up instead. . . Get back with us after you’re done.
Pretty sure that with that post you’d made, you’re doing some vast oversimplifications and handwaving, that you’ll need to address before you say “you can.” To wit:
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[li]How are you going to anchor foundations into a >45-degree slope, in a potentially non-bedrock environment? How are you going to guard for seismic issues?[/li][li]Will you be using a suspension architecture, cantilever, or post-and-rod architecture for the towers to run your cable cars?[/li][li]What mixture of concretes will you use for the altitute/vapor pressure differentials? How will you supply that concrete, and other building materials to the site?[/li][li]How will you provide the infrastructure necessary (power, water, sewer, comms) to continue with the production on site in one of the most austere environments on Earth?[/li][li]What is your lifecycle maintenance plan for this project? “Who will maintain all of the moving parts at 29,500+ feet?” What special materials (i.e. lubricants and fuels) will you need to substitute at higher altitudes and extreme climactic conditions?[/li][li]What does your cost-benefit analysis tell you about the engineering methods necessary to scale the height and span the distances? Is existing architecture used in the 5-10k foot altitude sufficient?[/li][li]What are the political and economic limitations on your project that will drive the architectural and engineering principles to make this thing come to life? (What are your constraints? Do you really believe the Nepalese government will allow this?)[/li][li]Most importantly:Why are you recommending this project be built? What problems does it solve? Are you installing this for the benefit of one person per year, or is there a greater market? [/li][/ul]
Why do you need a cable-car when even you, someone who claimed to be an Army medic, would realize that a Harvest Falcon 4-bed EMEDS kit (Ref 1-3), hauled up the mountain to the nearest safe escarpment, would provide at least a Role 2 medical capability* (advanced trauma management and emergency medical treatment) to stabilize the injured/ill person until they can be brought down the mountain. No drilling, no concrete, just lay out the assets and provide a staff, with the most difficult part being getting a power cable up the mountain. Infinitely more practical than a cable car or ski lift up one of the remaining majestic adventures on the planet.
But if you want to prove that your cable car is feasible, start by addressing the above list.
These are weasel-words, because you have not done any homework (see above) to address real-world concerns. But, I don’t know where this idea came forward, or what it was meant to address. . . I suspect it came from another thread, addressing another topic, and I will defer to your OP there. Please link to the original thread where you proposed the idea of a cable-car up Mount Everest, so we can have some context.
Tripler
*Note: I’m old-school and am used to Harvest Falcon. I understand the Air Force is evolving to a new system.
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Reference 1: AFTTP 3-42.7, Aerospace Medical Contingency Ground Support System, 10 Oct 2013
Reference 2: AFH 10-222, Volume 2, Bare Base Assets, 6 Feb 2012
Reference 3: AFPAM 10-219 Volume 5, Bare Base Conceptual Planning, 4 April 2013.[/sub]
They are forum banshees. They don’t kill threads directly but when they appear, wailing their hideous laments, they are heralding the eminent demise of the thread.
In all fairness, in thinking this over I’m not sure that Sammy claims to be an expert on absolutely everything. I believe his great expertise primarily centers on human relationships, finance, and of course his favorite, all of technology, science, and engineering. It seems to work more or less as follows:
Human relationships: Women are worthless except as sex objects to be exploited, and we should all be extremely jealous of Sammy’s claimed ability to do so in his capacity as a whoremongering STD-infected misogynistic douchebag.
Finance: One should always over-extend oneself on credit cards and pay exorbitant interest on them, and claim on message boards that one is so financially astute that credit card debts are always paid in full. When challenged on this contradiction, claim that you own two credit cards, and follow the first policy on one, and the second on the other. One should note here that the best financial advice always comes from penniless bums.
All technology: The solutions to all technological problems – everything from deflecting asteroids to building a ski lift on Mount Everest to achieving immortality – can be extrapolated from knowledge of a few basic principles which fortunately Sammy knows. One “just” (√(-1) ∙ 3.762 x 10^109 nanobots) needs to extrapolate those principles using one’s giant throbbing brain (which, again fortunately, Sammy possesses) and whango! – problem solved! (One needs to mentally say “problem solved” in the voice of Inspector Clouseau saying “the case is solv-ed”). For example, immortality is easily achieved by killing old and sick people and stuffing them in a freezer until science give us the all-clear to thaw them out again. The thawing is easily achieved with a large microwave on the “defrost” setting. Bringing them back to life then “just” requires about a hundred thousand nanobots waving little tiny Japanese fans. And of course, the nanobots have to perform whatever medical miracles are necessary, which is trivial since this is in the future.
What we really need here and which technology has not yet achieved – but I suspect we’re on the cusp of it – is a 30-day suspension for Sammy that is automatically renewed every 30 days in perpetuity.
The current list:
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SunnyDaze (8/10 or 11 dependent on privilege restoration);
Oredigger77 (8/13);
Guest Starring: Id! (8/14);
Tripler (8/18);
JohnT (8/21);[/del]
TroutMan (8/30);
SlowMovingVehicle (9/4);
Atamasama (9/22).
Also noted that he’s been avoiding this thread, but has been posting infrequently. One of which has been a thinly-veiled question on how to use E-Verify to . . .
He’s been pretty milquetoast, with one or two exceptions since his suspension, but I noted his reliance–again–on databases and computer technology to solve social/political issues.
He still has yet to turn in his homework, too.
Anyway, If we go through all the selections, Round #2 will open up on October 1st. I suspect we will have to, since SamuelA has cracked open his six-pack of ‘Weak Sauce.’
Tripler
I see he still hasn’t stepped away from the Word Salad Buffet, either.
And we can add pharmaceutical research and rain forest ecology as subjects SamuelA is an “expert” on. Fine, he didn’t state as such, but the premise of his OP is certainly that all of his statements are correct.
Linky?
I’ve never paid a lot of attention to SamuelA, but a couple weeks ago he did drop into a little discussion of ransomware and encryption in general to tell me i didn’t know what I was talking about. He did this by making a wild misstatement of fact, then questioning my qualifications when I asked him for a cite. That was kinda annoying. I don’t claim to know much about much, but I do actually teach cybersecurity for a living.
More SamA environmentalism trolling. I think he’s both dumb enough to think the total oil consumption in the world is a fixed number, and dick enough to only post to rile people up with his superior non-PC brilliance.