Cool.
Truly. Potentially good kids take a really wrong path, then end up dead or in prison, and that makes us happy? Wouldn’t it be better if they could somehow turn their lives around and contribute something of value to society? Or is that just some crazy liberal fantasy?
Think about what would drive kids to do such things. They must have already lived through a certain amount of unrelenting hell. I pity them, and don’t celebrate their continued unrelenting hell.
That three kids knocked a guy off his bike and tried to get his wallet, and he shot two of them.
It sounds like they got a bit of an education whether they were looking for it or not. Too late for one of them, but perhaps the others can benefit from the example.
Regards,
Shodan
People are adorable when they get all interwebs vigilante bloodlusty. They’re like kittens pouncing on a laser pointer. Aw… who’s a vicious predator!!! You are! Yes you are!!!
That’s not really celebration-worthy. It is good that the victim fought back and the surviving muggers were caught. It’s not so good that the guy got beaten up, that one of the muggers is dead, that the man who killed him will have to live with the trauma of that, and that the surviving kids have seriously fucked up their lives.
I am relieved that the outcome wasn’t worse and that justice was done but a young man is dead - it’s hardly party time.
Hilarious.
Yeah, I’m certainly not condoning what these kids did in any way, but if you think that dead 15 year olds are awesome, well, you may be a sociopath. Or at least an Internet Badass, which is only slightly less contemptible.
Please elaborate on that. Do you mean someone who acts tough and cool on the web but is a weeny living in his parent’s basement? 
It is awful that a human dies, but better one of the muggers than their victim.
The parents’ basement part isn’t necessary to being an Internet Badass.
I agree better the mugger than the victim, but it seems fairly obvious that **no **dead people would be even better than that.
Everyone cheering lacks empathy not only for the dead 15 year old, which is bad enough, but for the gentleman who shot him. In real life, peoples’ reaction to killing a kid, even in self-defense, isn’t generally “AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!”
Agree.
Agree.
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Eh, disagree. Having an undeveloped superego isn’t necessarily hell. Lacking empathy for strangers isn’t necessarily hell… you could ask Alexander the Great about that if you had a time machine.
This is directed at me? Where did I say there was anything to celebrate? My sole point was that you don’t get a pass at violence just because you’re poor. If “monsters” is too colorful, how about “violent criminals?” I mean that’s what they are, right? But I’m sticking with “complete lack of empathy.” You don’t knock some peaceful dude off his bike and stomp him if you have even the tiniest shred of basic humanity.
Yeah, it’s a tragedy. I’m sorry it happened. But a much worse tragedy would be a headline that read “Sixty five year old man found robbed, brutally beaten. Victim is in intensive care at local hospital. No arrests have been made.”
Ever read the Darwin Awards? It’s worthy of that kind of celebration.
Should people get shot and die? No, but it’s gonna happen anyway. Might as well be one of these clowns.
Regards,
Shodan
Yes. That’s why I quoted you in three different places.
You certainly seemed glad that the kid was dead, both there, and in this post.
You really think that a total lack of human empathy is a prerequisite for committing violent assault? Is there any possibility, in your view, that a sixteen year old kid might have poor impulse control, and lack the ability to think through the results of his actions? I understand those traits are pretty common among teenagers, but most of them outgrow it. Can you outgrow a “complete lack of empathy?” That sounds pretty pathological to me. I mean, IANAD and all, but isn’t that the definition of a sociopath? Do you think that everyone who commits a violent crime is a sociopath?
Why? I mean, given how you view these kids - what would be the purpose in keeping them alive? If these kids are just completely devoid of any sort of human compassion or empathy, aren’t they simply going to keep getting worse and worse as they get older? If you are correct in your description of them, wouldn’t the best thing be to kill them now, before they seriously harm anyone else?
- “Potentially good kid…” Means “Not good kid.” If he had potential, he *chose *not to utilize it. BTW, why do you even think 'potentially good kid?" It’s just a guess that he was potentially good. We know, for certain, that he was ‘definitely bad.’ An effing robber. Not even a burglar. Not even robbing a person one-on-one. He did it 3-1. On an old man. That makes me feel, if not happy, very comfortable, and very safe.
- It would be not only better if they could turn their lives around…it would be better if they became firemen, doctors and teachers, brilliant scientists…in fact, it would be marvellous! even wonderful! A lot of things would be better, but, I don’t think that was an option…It isn’t crazy liberal fantasy. It’s crazy irrelevancy.
- Just what *did *drive these poor ‘kids’ to do this? Want for drugs? New Grillz? A pimp mobile? Whores? Guns? We know that the repeat offender lived through some real hell when he was in prison/jail before, for…being poor?
I’m always sorry when somebody dies, but, I’m equally happy that an unfixable worthless item, whose sole purpose is to endanger, no damage others, is taken out of the equation. Somebody being happy about a robber getting killed in the act is not to be scorned.
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I wish you hadn’t said this. I just watched this movie the night before last, and I’m in no mood to watch it again…
Where is the ‘GRRRRRR’ smilie?
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Three guys trying to rob one 65 year old man, but knocking him off his bike!!! It wasn’t an ‘assault’…it was a “Strong Arm Robbery”! Not sociopath bad. It was 'extortion, brutal, terrorist, we’ll kill you if you don’t give us your money" bad. I believe it can effectively be equal to having a weapon, i.e., it would qualify to cover the correct ‘believe in imminent grevious bodily harm’ (or whatever the phrase is-IANAL) that covers the legal aspect for deadly self defense.
Literally, all we know about the dead guy is that he was 16, participated in a strong arm robbery against a senior citizen, and got what he deserved. We don’t know what else he got away with. Why not celebrate it???
These three kids…I like that…Let’s see, how many notorious gangsters committed murder at earlier ages…
It’s sad for the dead guy that he’s dead…it’s a joy to the whole of society, tho…
Somehow I find it difficult to mourn the death of someone who was ready to stomp an old man for what rather small amount of goods he would have had on him, and really difficult to sympathize about another couple kids who fucked their own lives up.
I do think you get what you sow, and they sowed their own seeds of destruction. At least now there is one less violent criminal on the streets permanently, and 2 less for a short time.
What happened to Chick Corea?
I’ll have you know that I am using the proceeds from my muggings to put myself through school!
Don’t get me started…