Tell me about truly f'ed up people you know

One of my best friends growing up ended up as a serial killer and only escaped the death penalty because his father would not give up the story that they were together when the main incident happened. During my rough years, I had to go inpatient into the psychiatric ward a few times. The culture is strange in those and you can ask any patient there anything you want and expect to get an honest answer. Many of those answers are more than disturbing and range from violent child molestation to attempted murder through strange but creative means.

If you go to AA or NA meetings in the more harsh parts of town, the situation is the same. People will freely tell everyone everything. Who knew that is it is very common for addicts to go t detox and/or rehab 100+ times each. It isn’t uncommon at all especially when you factor in a few maximum security prison stints on top of those.

After all of this, I think I am the opposite. I would be amazed if a family gave demonstrable proof that their family is normal. My uncle fled to Saudi Arabia to escape embezzlement charges. My family is about 80% bipolar and alcoholic. My great-grandmother was an identical twin and, in the 1920’s, she passed off my grandmother as her little sister forever giving her up to my great-great grandparents who forced her to work menial labor at their hotel barely after she could walk.

I could go on and on. I firmly believe that all of humanity has a huge, deviant underbelly and can only be trusted when it is exposed. Families that claim to be “normal” make me extremely skeptical and nervous.

So…people are bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling? :wink:

My family is pretty normal in comparison. My mother (who I haven’t spoken to in nigh on 16 years) thought a big divorce settlement was more important than maintaining a relationship with me or my sister. She’s seen my son once, when he was four months old, has never seen my daughter, and has seen my nephew (she’s still on speaking terms with my sister) exactly twice in his twelve years.

Whatever.

Some of my relatives are/were (in the case of the dead one) pedophiles or otherwise molested their children and/or siblings.

My half-uncle reportedly would sometimes tie his kids to furniture when he wasn’t around.

That work (so to speak) for you?

Well, it’s not like I’m jerking off to this shit. Christ. It’s more of a morbid curiosity combined with genuine interest. I grew up in what you might call a ‘normal’ family. Mum, dad, boy, girl. No spousal abuse, no sexual molestation, no alcoholism, no junkie cousins coming to crash at the house for eighteen months and selling my Nintendo for crack.

Didn’t mean to imply as much. Sometimes people want more details, and sometimes they don’t want to wish they hadn’t read what I wrote. So I went with relatively generic information and asked if you wanted specifics (which would not be in IMHO, that’s for sure).

If you do want more information, let me know. I don’t want to give anyone nightmares, and I especially don’t want survivors to come across this stuff unless they choose to.

This woman has a brilliant career ahead of her as a senior executive in a large corporation.

A girl I was friends with in high school went down the road to nutville my sophmore year in college. She went out and got herself knocked up on purpose by a drug dealer because she thought it would make him stay with her. Because that worked so well for his daughter’s mom, you know? :rolleyes:

Then while she was pregnant she went to Amsterdam, smoked a bunch of pot and did various other drugs and proceeded to fall down a set of stairs. This sent her into early labor and she delivered her baby at 5 months.

Then about 6 weeks later she called me at work (I managed a pizzaria at the time) and told me she was going to commit suicide. She said she had bought about $2000 worth of cocaine and was going to snort it all and that her will was under her bed. I left the pizza place without management to drive to her house and found her lying in bed and a bunch of white powder on the table next to her. I called my fiance and had him come help me load her in my car and I swept the white powder into a ziploc bag and drove her to the hospital.

They ran some tests and found out she was faking the whole thing and that the white powder was crushed up aspirin and then checked her into the psych ward overnight against her will (her mother signed off on the paperwork.) Then about 2 weeks after that she presented me with a bill for almost $1000 to cover the expenses she incurred in the hospital because since I made her go it was obviously my responsibility to pay for it. I walked away and never spoke to her again.

I had a close acquaintance in high school. He was maybe 18 or so, and the only son in a fallen-from-grace South American family. He spent his life spoiled beyond belief and this turned him into a clover-smoking Morrisey-loving sexuality questioning suburban neo-beatnik.

Kid didn’t know how to drive. His solution was to find 16 year old girls. Young sunny hippy types were a specialty. The kind of girl who has had a good heart for so long that she starts wondering what the dark side feels like. Maybe she has something in her family life that is not quite right, but has worked so hard to keep herself put together that you’d never know it. He could take a ray of sunshine and find that seed of darkness, that bit of curiosity.

Well he’d reel them in with his clove cigarettes. He’d have then drive him to poetry slams and art gallery openings. They’d slink along into the shadowy-er depths of the art world. It was all very glamorous and exciting to the girls. Then he’d give them presents. A bit of speed. Just to make things a little more fun. Soon they’d gladly drive him around town anywhere. He was always a generous guy. And eventually they’d need what he had to give them.

After about half a year, they’d be high school drop outs, looking like the living dead- 90 pounds, covered in sores, rotted teeth and hair falling out. He’d have some new 16 year old sunshine girl at his side.

This happened to friend after friend. One escaped. The rest fell pretty hard. Few of the girls I grew up with made it out of high school without some major scars. It was tough watching all my friends get all used up before they could even vote, all because on narcissistic prick didn’t want to take his driving test.

My ex.

IANAP, but I’m pretty sure he has NPD. What was weird, and scary, was in retrospect how predictable the whole relationship was. Started off good, he made noises about marriage and kids early, I fell in love, he showed his temper, we broke up, I went back, thinking I could ‘help’ him and if he could only sort out this one aspect of his personality we’d be fine. Finally left about a year ago now and am still :mad: sometimes.

Like the friend of the poster above, he too would get jobs and then lose them because of his temper and attitude. But it was never his fault of course - his boss didn’t appreciate him, his customers were assholes…Was also the same with his friendships and, ultimately, his relationship with me - he genuinely didn’t seem to figure out that he was the common denominator in all these fights. I try to be a pretty good friend and girlfriend, and I’m still friends with all my other exes, but the reason we broke up was apparently because I’m a ‘psycho’. :dubious: He even got his sister in law to text me and tell me to stay away from the family, which really hurt me after the year I’d had with him (I still have a letter from the domestic violence unit at our local police station asking if I needed any further help).

Like you, Hogwash, I hadn’t really came across people like that before. I worked with homeless people for a few years and met many vulnerable and messed up types through that, but that was kind of different because it was in work and because I would know before meeting a client if they had ‘issues’ - this was the first time it happened in my personal life though and I was completely flummoxed by it. I just wanted to know why, as I think most people are genuinely good. Lesson learnt. I still think most people are though.

What? I can’t hear you…

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Sorry if this is a bit too LiveJournally - I guess I’m still jest a wee bit annoyed.

A good friend of mine in another state has 2 kids in daycare. The woman runs the business out of her house, and is very sweet but a bit of a doormat.

Another of her regular customers were a couple with 4 kids: aged (about) 11, 9, 6, and 4. My friend had mentioned the parents were apparently in the midst of a rancorous divorce, and would occasionally not pick up their kids until the next morning – they’d call a few times, saying that they’d be there in an hour, in another hour … and the sitter would just feed them dinner and find places for the kids to sleep.

At the beginning of the summer, the parents started leaving the kids for longer and longer strecthes. Without calling, and without paying her a dime. Three days. A week. I just spoke to my friend, and he mentioned that the parents had picked up the kids Friday evening for the first time in 3 weeks, and were bringing them back to daycare today. The three older kids are not in school, and the sitter doesn’t know what to do – she afraid to call CPS and get them consigned to foster care, and she’s afraid she’ll get in trouble for keeping them. I think she’s a little afraid of the parents as well. She’s considering registering them for school in her district and just hoping that parents disappear.

My friend doesn’t know much about the parents, but these have to be 2 very f’ed up people to abandon their kids at the day care. For the record, he is urging her to document what’s going on and to call CPS and get these kids taken away from these 2 nutjobs.

Growing up, our neighbors one house down were pretty nasty. A pack of four or five kids, one of who was in my grade, were all miserable bullies - I mean, rock-throwing, aspiring-to-be-skinheads in elementary school jerks. That’s not who this is about, though: they were like that because their father was a worthless sack of shit. He beat his kids, his wife, and his dog, cheated, lied, drank all the time, did heavy drugs, dealt drugs, and ran small errands for the mafia. Throughout my childhood my parents called the police, Child Services, and the township animal welfare department dozens of times on him, because he was just one of those people who is absolutely morally empty.

He was an arsonist and pulled insurance fraud. When I was very little, barely old enough to remember it, their house burnt down. It was an old house that was apparently costing them a lot in maintenance. So he piled up a bunch of canisters of gasoline or kerosene, I forget which, in their enclosed porch - ostensibly, he was “storing” them there for a generator his construction crew was using at a worksite. Then one evening he took his family to a motel in town for the night and “accidentally” left an old space heater with an exposed heating element plugged in and on full-blast…on the enclosed porch filled with cans of flammable stuff. The house, predictably, went ‘woosh’, and somehow they got a nice insurance payout.

When I was in elementary school there was a drive-by shooting at his house. On our nice leafy suburban street, a car drove by, slowed down, fired off a few shots at their house, and took off. His reaction was not to frantically check on his daughter who was playing in the living room in the front of the house; it was to grab his (illegally owned) gun, run outside, and shoot back at the car. No one was hurt, but I saw the whole thing, because I’d been riding my bike in the street in front of our house.

My parents once complained to him after his son punched me in the face (schoolyard stuff). His reaction was to tell them I probably deserved it and to get the hell off his property.

Eventually his wife finally got up the nerve to leave him. They moved just a few blocks away for a while, then he showed up angry, drugged out of his skull, and waving a gun around. Last I heard wife and kids moved a few towns away to try to get the hell away from him. He’d be arrested, released, arrested, released, etc: they could never quite pin anything solid on him. Astoundingly, his relatively young construction company started losing tons of money, and eventually the office burnt down in exactly the same way his house had. The police and fire inspector were, of course, shocked and appalled at the “bad luck” the guy had.

A few years later, when I was in high school, he turned up dead, shot in the middle of his forehead in his pickup truck…in the parking lot of my high school. The police came to talk to my parents and asked if they could think of anyone who might have wanted to kill this guy. My dad, quite honestly, said he didn’t know any names but he was sure that all you’d have to do was know the guy to not like him. The cop, according to my father, agreed. After about a day they decided it was a suicide despite it seeming rather suspicious. General consensus was that the police saw no reason to investigate the guy; at most it would lead them towards drug dealers and/or mobster types. They already knew he had those connections and saw no reason to hassle themselves with it.

So I’d say he was a pretty f’d up dude.

NinjaChick, change a couple of details in your post and you are talking about Ken Rex McElroy. Talk about being truly f’ed up!

Nobody will ever beat the poster who knew the guy who volunteered to be killed and eaten by a German psycho.

I couldn’t find the post/thread to link to it.

That is true. I remember it. The eatee in question was an international coworker of a Doper that he knew personally. I thought it was a little odd until I realized that the problem was that no recipes were provided. I am pretty sure that the two ate parts (like testicles and a penis) together. If that isn’t one romantic and giving occasion, I don’t think there is one.

What do you do if your testicles aren’t properly prepared? I think you just have to keep it to yourself and assume the liver will be much better.

The eatee - I love it - I think I saw this in the news. Didn’t the eatee think they were just going to share some organs and a spot of blood but the German guy duped him and drained off all his blood instead of some?

IIRC, Revtim was the guy who worked with the eatee.

I thought about signing up just so I could post this story.

I’m a behavioral therapist for autistic children and one of my clients is a two-year-old boy. Ever since I met the mother of this boy, I found her behavior somewhat flighty and strange. She could never seem to keep it together, despite the fact that she was stay-at-home with just this child to watch (older brother was at school all day long).

She told me her “job” was e-bay. She would buy things she found on sale and then sell them for a profit on the internet. One day, she breathlessly told me of this great deal she had made: She found two pairs of designer sunglasses on sale for $75. She sold one of them on e-bay for $100 dollars, and decided to keep the other one for herself, isn’t that great? Inside, I’m thinking, “Lady, your ‘deal’ just cost your household $50.” She was always making “deals” like this, and then she would tearfully tell me that her husband was worried about finances.

She couldn’t seem to get herself or her son out of bed on time. I arrive everyday at nine, and most days I would ring the doorbell, knock, and finally call the home phone in order to wake her up so she could come let me in. Is it so hard to set your alarm for 8:55?

She also couldn’t keep track of the toddler. The worst incident occurred one morning as I pulled up in front of the house. I turned my head and jumped in my seat when I saw the little boy pressed up against my passenger side window cheerfully saying, “Boo! Boo!” I craned my head to look to see if mom had escorted him out front to greet me, but no adult was in sight. I got out of the car to see that he is completely naked from the waist down, no pants, no shoes, not even a diaper!

I grabbed his hand and we walked inside the house, me calling, “Hello?” No response. “Hello? J?” Finally, she emerges from her bedroom, which had been closed, apologizing profusely and explaining that she had to send a last minute e-mail to her older son’s school. Okay, but you needed to do that with your bedroom door closed, with your naked two-year-old alone in the living room, the two-year-old who by the way is perfectly capable of operating a doorknob?

Other minor incidents with the kid happened while she was shut in her room as well, but her problem never dawned on me, as it has probably dawned on some of you by now. Yes, she was on drugs. Shortly after Little Boy did his The Great Escape impression, she was shipped off for three months to rehab. No, I don’t know what kind of drugs.

But it doesn’t end there. Apparently, shortly after she went to rehab, multiple credit card companies starting calling the house demanding payment. She had racked up thousands of dollars of debt in her e-bay “job.” Three months later, she was out of rehab, and that very day she dropped $125 at a shoe store.

Now, the parents are separating, the family is in debt, the kids are cycled through multiple caregivers (grandma, grandpa, other grandpa, nanny, different nanny), and mom drops by the disrupt their lives and traumatize the kids whenever she feels like it. By traumatize, I mean drop by the house without calling, kiss and cuddle with the older boy, chase around and rile up the younger boy, and then sneak off ten minutes later without saying goodbye, so that the younger boy wanders through the house crying and calling for his mommy.

What really makes this so fucked up to me is that she betrayed her family and children in so many ways. Her full-time job was the care for the kids. She didn’t do that and even put the younger’s life in danger with her neglect. Her job was to appropriately manage the household finances. She put them into debt and blew through her kids’ college fund for all I know. She continues to fail, because, even though she no longer lives with her children, her job is to provide them with consistency and support, and instead she sees them only when and as much as it is convenient for her.

Man, even the sight of her makes my blood boil!

  1. Kal! Hi! It’s good to see you posting again.

  2. When I was quite young - starting from when I was eight - my family’s next door neighbors were a couple, both heroin addicts. I only vaguely understood what this really was at the time, but my mom had told me that the male half of the couple had offered my dad some heroin, which was Bad. The female half of the couple was friendly and had been over for coffee a few times. They worked the night shift at a pizza parlor and my family jokingly referred to them as The Vampires because we never saw them during the day. (We even had them under Vampires in our rolodex.)

When I was…oh, I guess around twelve, they got a room at a nice hotel in San Francisco (I grew up in the 'burbs of the Bay Area) to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the day they met. Whereupon the man shot and killed the woman, and then himself in a murder-suicide.

Mine doesn’t involve a death or anything so dramatic. I know this woman who once bragged to me that about what she did to her (then) boyfriend. She knew she was getting her period that day, the same day they were planning a romantic weekend away–their first together. He was a nice enough guy, btw. He had a bottle of wine in the car, along with flowers etc. They check into the hotel. She stalls a bit (she emphasized this part to me), so that “everything would work the way I wanted it to.”

They finally start making out and he starts to er, digitally stimulate her, whereupon he notices his fingers are bloody. I assume this guy must have been fairly naive because he stopped and asked if he were hurting her. She said, “no, but I do have to tell you that I have had cervical cancer. This happens sometimes. It’s not my period, but it’s ok. If you want to keep going, I don’t mind.” He freaks out, apologizes profusely for hurting her and stops what he is doing. The end result that she was proud of?

“The rest of the weekend, he treated me like a queen.”
This is the same woman who used to call me (knowing I am rabidly pro-choice) and tell me that she had the number to the abortion clinic and was going to call it, now, but she wanted my “support.” This, after she had undergone in vitro fertilization for the second time(first time was a single birth), and found out that she was pregnant with twins. Two things: she didn’t want twins and one of those twins was a boy. She didn’t want a boy. She often said to me during her pregnancy that she wanted to abort and start over (ie do in vitro again and try for a single birth–knowing the odds of multiples). Nice.

She still doesn’t want her boy. He is the one who gets the least amount of attention, the fewest toys, and the most punishment. She actively mocks his speech impediment and put him in 5 day week preschool, but kept the girl twin (verbally precocious, more than ready for more stimulation) home with her. Oh, and the “abortion call threat?”–that never happened. Nope, she’s always wanted these girls, and oh, [name of boy here]. :dubious: Now I am glad he is in Kindergarten because at least in school, he gets some positive attention. I am related to this person and wish I weren’t. Thankfully, it is only by marriage.

Wow, eleanorigby, what a bitch.

A friend of mine once dated a woman who played a “prank” on him by leaving him a note saying that she was pregnant. I think she may even have included a testing device made to look like it was showing a positive result or something like that–I don’t exactly remember how the whole thing played out, since I only heard him tell it afterwards, but it made him reevaluate the relationship, so to speak.