Tell me about your mattress

OK, so the missus and I are shopping for a new king-sized mattress. My wife has a troublesome back and our 12-year-old mattress leaves her achy. We have about 7 mattress stores within 2 miles of our house, and today we visited Mattress Discounters and Mattress Warehouse.

Mattress Warehouse does not sell Tempur-Pedic, the ones made of memory foam. They claim they had too many returns on them because the foam “conceals heat” :confused: and makes you sweat. He said sweating increases the dust mites and propensity for bed bugs. Sounds like bullshit to me.

Your opinion on Tempur-Pedic?

Mattress Discounters offers a 60-day comfort guarantee, however, the fine print says that fees apply. We didn’t ask about it, but I am wondering what this “guarantee” really costs if you decide to return a mattress. And the first place told us they don’t offer a comfort guarantee because they won’t sell reconditioned mattresses. He went on to say that Mattress Discounters takes mattresses that come back in from the guarantee, “sanitizes” them, and resells them. He claims to have had a customer who bought a mattress from Mattress Discounters and smelled like cigarette smoke.

Any idea which one is bullshitting me? (My guess: Both.)

Mattress Warehouse sells a line from Nature’s Glory that is pushed as “organic.” C’mon, an organic mattress? They claim to use organically grown cotton, wool, and wood, and recycled steel. The salesman said that this cuts down on allergic reactions and mites and bedbugs. Sets off my bullshit detector.

Anyway, tell me about your mattress, why you bought it, and how you like it.

I have a foam mattress. It does not sweat or trap anything. that is bull. It also does not provide a home for bed mites. My wife said I quit snoring when we got it. I know that I do not snore, never have . So I would not go by that.

Yeah, it’s bull. We’ve had our king-sized Tempur-Pedic for several years now and no worries. Heat has little to do with dust mites anyway, as the dense foam is a hostile environment for them. Also, Tempur-Pedic gives you 90 days or so to try it out. If you don’t like it, return it.

The bed is very comfortable. One person can get up at night and the other person won’t feel a thing.

Oh, and a bit of searching on the net will get you to a website that debunks all the mattress double-talk you read and hear.

I’ve never slept on a Tempur-Pedic, but I have heard complaints from people saying it made them too hot. And I have a memory foam pillow (which I love), and to me it seems to stay warmer than a regular pillow does (the only thing I don’t like about it). Maybe it’s just a personal thing…

I won’t make a recommendation on a mattress, because I haven’t yet found one I really love. It did seem to me that most of the mattress sales people I dealt with last time we were looking were about on par with used car sales people. I don’t trust anything any of them say. The one I’ve liked best in the store was Hästens, but they’re insanely expensive (and thus I’ve never actually slept on one long term).

I bought a Simmons pillow top a few years ago. I like it a lot. I spent about $600 for the whole shebang, delivered…it was on sale, as these things always are, down from about $800.

I too have a memory foam pillow. I like it. It does seem a bit warmer but I like the firmness.

I have a T-P pillow, and wish I had a T-P mattress to match.

The one coming will be the 2nd summer I will have had the pillow,
and I love it.

I don’t sweat, itch or anything, except sleep soundly.

I wish you the very best with whatever mattress you choose.

Mine’s from Squornshellos Zeta and is named Zem, it has never, to my knowledge ever flolloped or flurbled, it was thoroughly killed and dried before I took delivery of it

I have a memory-foam mattress and love it. It feels no warmer or cooler than any other mattress and it is crazy comfortable. I fall asleep on it quicker than any other mattress I’ve used.

CostCo has them in stock (squashed up in a big box) and it might be worthwhile either buying a membership or visiting the place with a friend who has one. They have the best return policy around and you can give one a real trial.

If you get a T-P pillow, when you bed down, be sure to ease your head onto it.

I kept forgetting, let mine plop on it like a regular pillow, and BOINNNNNG!

It’s not the softest pillow in the world. :smiley:

I got a memory foam mattress on a special all-in deal with a new bed. It is awesome. I don’t think it is a brand name one though.

Doesn’t matter. I bought the new kit because my old bed broke(and was crap in the first place), and I haven’t had a good night’s sleep for about 8 years due to just general poor sleeping/insomnia type problems. I could tell the difference immediately.

I’m realistic: it hasn’t cured my sleeping problems. But at least if I’m awake I’m extremely comfortable. And I’m always cold so I have a huge thick duvet and a hot water bottle(or a hot man :wink: ) every night, no problems so far but haven’t tried it in the summer yet!

In summary, I would recommend it whole-heartedly, especially if you can get a trial period with one!

I have had a Select Comfort bed for about 15 years. I absolutely LOVE IT. You can adjust the firmness to whatever suits you when you go to sleep. My standard firmness has changed many times over the years and it’s great to be able to change it to what you want/need.

Any time I’ve had to move, it was easy to transport (the whole things comes apart and the mattress completely deflates) and then set back up again.

My only real complaints about it would be that I can’t wash the fabric cover (can’t even be dry cleaned, which I find odd. I need to do some new research into that, I think) and the foam pad that fits in between the two sides of the mattress breaks down and isn’t easily replaced. That little foam pad makes a huge difference in whether the mattress feels like one mattress or two.

We bought a tempur-pedic last summer, shortly around when we found out we were pregnant. It was and still is heaven to sleep in. I still had the aches and pains of pregnancy, but not nearly as much as the first time being pregnant. I also don’t think it keeps us any hotter, and my hubby usually runs pretty hot. We got 2 pillows included in our purchase price - which are very nice as well. I can’t remember what size pillow I got, but it’s considerably larger than my husband’s normal size pillow and it’s kinda heavy, but oh so nice to sleep on. You can’t ‘bounce’ into like a normal bed either, which takes some getting used to.

We realized it was a hefty investment, but if you keep the bed around 20 years, I think it works out to $200/year for a heavenly sleep.

I miss the bed at night when I’m sleeping in the guestroom because the baby is up! (Of course the guestroom bed was great the first 6-7 nights, and then I wanted to leave! Which are all great qualities in a guestroom bed!)

Mommypants and I bought a Select Comfort bed last year and we love it. The Tempur-pedic was too soft for us.

  1. Tempur-Pedic is the most expensive brand of viscoelastic foam. Other brands do exist. Some of them are very nice. Whatever the brand, not everyone loves sleeping on it – one reason is that, as mentioned, some people find it too warm and/or sweaty. If you like everything else about it, you might try using lighter blankets and a cotton mattress pad.

It seems warmer because it is a “closed cell” foam and does not let as much air or moisture circulate through it as other mattress materials do.

The main difference (not the only difference, but the main one) between the various viscoelastic foams is how dense it is. Common densities are described as 3 lb., 4 lb., and 5 lb. (Tempur-Pedic is on the heavy end.) I’ve seen 5.5 and 6 lb. versions advertised but haven’t felt them; on the other hand, I once got samples of 3, 4, and 5, all from one maker, to compare. 3 lb. doesn’t do, very well, what viscoelastic foam does best, which is to resist your weight at your heaviest points; it compresses too easily and ends up feeling like non-VE foam. Some people find 5 lb. oddly dense or hard (c.f. BarnOwl’s pillow.) My husband and I happen to find it just right.

Tempur-Pedic works hard at trying to convince you that you need a whole mattress of the stuff to be comfortable. In my experience, except for large or heavy people, more than 4" of viscoelastic foam is overkill. A 3" thick overlay of off-brand 5 lb. VE foam over a $99 cotton futon is what we’ve slept on for years, and we love it. In fact, if you read the fine print, you’ll find out that many “whole mattresses” (or worse, “mattress systems”) of VE foam only have actual VE foam on top, bonded to a core of plain old mattress foam. If you do go with an overlay, don’t put it over your old mattress if the old mattress isn’t flat anymore. I recommend cheap futons for “underlays” primarily because they don’t creak or bounce at all, unlike cheap spring mattresses; you might be surprised at how much insomnia is caused by your bedmate’s normal noise and movement. It’s even possible to put a 4" overlay by itself directly on a platform bed (or the floor, or the bed of a pickup truck, etc.) and be comfortable.

Brand-new fresh VE foam of any brand does smell like chemicals, which bugs some people. Brand-new fresh VE foam is usually bright white, sometimes tinted blue or green, but it yellows fairly quickly as it’s exposed to air. Many people balk at what looks like yellow stains on new mattresses, so many VE mattresses and overlays are returned, without ever having been used, just because the plastic bags they were stored in prior to sale had air leaks. If you are willing to accept that yellowed VE foam is yellow for harmless reasons, you can pick up a great deal (as I did).

If you’re interested in VE foam but not convinced, by all means, try a pillow first.

Mr. Mattress Warehouse Anti-Tempur-Pedic Salesman is **bullshitting you about the dust mites. **Mites don’t especially like closed-cell foam of any kind and they’re mostly indifferent to how much your sweat varies. (You sweat plenty enough to keep them happy in a regular mattress.) Closed-cell foam doesn’t have the easily traversable continuous spaces inside that fiber-filled things do, so the mites aren’t as keen on living in it.

  1. There is **no universally correct density **or elasticity for a mattress. Different people find different things comfortable. If you feel like you’re fighting your mattress, it’s not a good one for you. Do not listen to any mattress salesperson who implies you have back trouble *because *your mattress is too soft or too firm and you Just Need This One Instead. You need the one you and your wife find comfortable. Try out the floor models and all that, or if you can remember a particularly comfortable guest bed you’ve slept in, find out what kind it was.

A Select Comfort type mattress is priceless if you and your bed partner sharply disagree on the best mattress density/firmness. A cheaper, somewhat less ideal approach to the same problem is to put two X-long-twin-size overlays of equal thickness but two different densities side by side over one king-size mattress or futon. The fitted sheet keeps them in place.

  1. Organic” has nothing to do with allergies, unless you specifically have chemical allergies (or Multiple Chemical Sensitivity or whatever they call that these days, and whether that’s even a real health issue is debatable). It has bugger-all to do with mites; if anything, I’d think a mite would be happier in an organic natural-fiber mattress than elsewhere. The reasonable argument in favor of organic is environmental: non-organic cotton is typically farmed with quite an astonishing amount of agricultural chemicals, which end up killing things downstream. If you buy organic bedding, you support sustainable farming methods etc. etc. If you can afford it and want that kind of mattress, go for it, but have no illusions about their health benefits.

  2. **Mattress stores and salespeople **are very much like car dealerships and salespeople: some are completely straightforward, most will say things of questionable factual value to upsell you, and some are outright liars. In general, I’ve found it best to suspect this pattern in ANYONE whose business it is to sell me something expensive that one buys infrequently (a car, a house, a wedding dress, a casket).

Good luck!

We’ve had a TempuPedic king-size mattress for two years, and it’s the best bed I’ve ever slept in. I am usually hotter than everyone else, and I’ve had no problems with heat. In fact, the guy who sold us ours said the only one that was every returned to him was returned because the people couldn’t get warm when they slept on it. So … clearly opinions differ.

Yeah, the cotton mattress pad suggested earlier pretty much negates temperature issues, even though TP says not to use one.

We have a tempur-pedic that my mom bought us as a surprise while she was house-sitting for us.

If it hadn’t been a gift, I would have never bought it. I’m used to it now, but the first couple of months were restless. The foam doesn’t rebound like springs, so when you lay down, you’re in this pocket of squishy. I felt trapped.

Also, it was ridiculously expensive. My mom is a chump for salesmen :frowning:

We have a cotton pad for the top (see previous comment about mom and salesmen). The thing is a pain in the ass because it slowly migrates off to one edge and has to be re-positioned every night. The shifting is independent of which way the pad is on the bed or who is sleeping on what side.
If anything, it is much colder than our previous mattress, but that might be because of the sheets.

I am a heavy sleeper, so the whole “never be disturbed by your partner’s shifting” is not a selling point for me.

Now that I’m used to the mattress, it’s ok, but I am unimpressed and will never buy one voluntarily.