Tell me Hillary wouldn't be a socialist dictator.

I know of only two: NRA and first AAA, that were declared unconstitutional – by the “Four Horsemen” plus one other justice. I believe there was another one as well. most of FDR’s programs were deemed constitutional, albeit by stretching “interstate commerce” vastly out of shape.

Precisely. I DO have experience in government employment, under both excellent and mediocre agency heads, and the difference in how the department I worked for operated – within exactly the same legislative and regulatory framework – was clear and unambiguous.

Ah yes, that’s why there were laws protecting slave owners, blue laws preventing stores from being open on Sundays, prohibition of adultery and fonication, bans of interracial marriage, restrictions on what drugs you can use and a brief prohibition of alcohol, outlawing celebration of Christmas in Massachusetts, etc.

It was more than the two you mentioned:

1935 Jan 7: Panama Refining Co.v. Ryan, 293 U.S. 388 (1935) Held: National Industrial Recovery Act Sect. 9(c) unconstitutional

1935 May 6: Railroad Retirement Board V. Alton R. Co., 295 U.S. 330 (1935) Held: Railrod Retirement Act unconstitutional

1935 May 27: A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. v. U.S., 295 U.S. 495 (1935) Held: National Industrial Recovery Act unconstitutional

1936 Jan 6: United States v. Butler, 297 U.S. 1 (1936) Held: Agricultural Adjustment Act unconstitutional

1936 May 18: Carter v. Carter Coal Co., 298 U.S. 238 (1936) Held: Bituminous Coal Conservation Act of 1935 unconstitutional

1937 Mar 29: West Coast Hotel Co. v. Parrish, 300 U.S. 379 (1937) Held: State of WA minimum wage law constitutional

1937 Apr 12: N.L.R.B. v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., 301 U.S. 1 (1937) Held: NLRA constitutional

1937 May 24: Steward Machine Co. v. Davis, 301 U.S. 548 (1937) Held: Social Security tax constitutional

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Three more. And I’ll gladly amend my statement to say that the Bituminous Coal Conservation Act of 1935, and a couple other programs, were ruled unconstitutional and therefore not within our nation’s framework. Other programs, such as the NLRB and Social Security and WPA, were within that framework.

Daniel

Nice job of documentation – may I compliment you on arguing with evidence, even though it was against my position?!

Some comments:

Panama and Schechter together address one of my two listed items; Butler, the other. I noted there was one other I didn’t recall; that would be Carter, which I had drawn a blank on remembering when I posted.

As regards RRB v Alton RR, you are correct that the Railroad Retirement Act of 1934 was in fact declared unconstitutional – owing to the fact that certain inseparable provisions in it were unconstitutional. These were corrected in the Railroad Retirement Acts of 1935 and 1937. (I was a bit surprised to learn this detail, as my grandfather and my uncle had retired on Railroad Retirement pensions.) So: points to you for an important detail, but longrange the New Deal policy of providing old-age pensions through Social Security and Railroad Retirment did pass constitutional muster.

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