Tell us an interesting random fact you stumbled across (Part 1)

Just because they eat like that during 2 weeks of competition, doesn’t necessarily mean that’s their normal or training diet.

I watched at youtube video a few years ago about an Olympic weight lifter and his training regimen and in particular the diet. When he is not lifting, he spent all of his waking hours eating in the couple of weeks just prior to competition. His wife would cook dozens of eggs per day for him.

TIL about the median artery - an artery found in some humans and animals.

The most interesting part - currently about 35% of people born as of 2020 have this artery, but only 10% of people born in the 1880s had this.

The article talks about the difference as being due to increased occurrence, but I wonder if it might not be due to the original statistics coming from e skewed population i.e. people born in the mid 1880s in the US were far more likely to be white.

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And I grew up in one of those areas…

I grew up in Cumbria, where sheep farming is a big thing, and could do a little counting shepherd style - yan, tan, tethra, methra…I now live in SE England, not far from the South Downs, which historically was a also major sheep farming area. And over the weekend, I found this tiny exhibit in a local museum:

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I had no idea that there was also a South Downs counting system, very different from the Cumbrian system. How had I never heard of this? Is it even for real? So, I googled wintherum wontherum and got one (!) hit. See post #9 of this (et seq):

Bexhill-on-Sea Observer - Saturday 04 May 1935

Counting Sheep.
The method of counting sheep in the olden days is the subject of an interesting article by Mr. James White in the May number of the “Sussex County Magazine” (which is an excellent issue). The shepherds never used ordinary figures, but enumerated the sheep by saying:

Wintherum, wontherum, twintherum, twontherum.

Who knew?

j

And that mark you made in your stick was a “score”.

Interesting that a Score is the same as the number of fingers and toes.

“Bumpit”?? Bum Pit or Bump It?

der Morgenmuffel: someone who is extremely grumpy in the mornings

I was just thinking that this throws a wrench into the notion of counting sheep to fall asleep. I’d keep waking up because I couldn’t remember the next number

"Wintherum, Wontherum, Twintherum,…Bumfit? Damn! I gotta go look it up again!:

Actually, there are a lot of these weird sheep-counting schemes:

The interesting thing to me was that the South Downs system seems completely unrelated. And it’s not as if there wasn’t scandinavian influence round these parts. Danehill is called Danehill for a reason.

If I remember correctly, it’s the Borrowdale system that I knew. But I only found that out because of the discussion upthread that I referenced.

j

This topic is so interesting, we’ve already discussed it.

…but without mention of the South Downs. Got that sorted now…

j

Even though the article is titled “yan-tan-tethera”, none of the local versions in their table actually starts with those three numbers. It looks like Rathmell is the only one with “tethera”, and it starts with Aen, Taen.

I didn’t copy all the variations. The Lincolnshire and Derbyshire versions both start “Yan Tan Tethera”

And I just noticed that Bumfit (or variants thereof) does occur in some of the systems. But that’s about it for overlap.

j

As a matter of fact, many things called in English and German “berries” (or Beeren) and nuts (or Nüsse) aren’t berries nor nuts at all, for instance strawberries are aggregate accesory fruits, raspberries and blackberries are aggregate fruits, mulberries are multiple fruits.
Pine nuts are not nuts, but seeds, as they lack a carpel (or fruit) outside. They are gymnosperms, like the juniper berries you mentioned, evolutionary speaking quite ancient/primitive. Ground nuts are legumes, like beans. Almonds and walnuts are drupes, like peaches. Brazil nuts are not nuts in a botanical sense either, but rapsberry and blackberry seeds (each individual little sphere) are nuts, as are the tiny seeds on the surface of a strawberry.
Tomatos and peppers are berries, though. And acorns and chestnuts are nuts. Everyday plain language and biological terminology don’t match well.

Nope. They’re juniper cones.

(hey, somebody had to)

If you ever read the “Captain Stern” graphic novels (he had a segment in the Heavy Metal movie), at one point Hanover Fist- a strict vegetarian- was stranded in the Jurassic era before the evolution of angiosperms. He survived on pine nuts and mushrooms.

Those sheep counting numbers sound like something Lewis Carrol made up.

He was lucky he found only edible mushrooms, there is no way to tell, only try and error. I would have suggested an omelette, made of dino eggs. Or does strict vegetarian mean vegan? I never read that graphic novel.

Am I the only one struck by the similarity of sheep-counting to the counting-out rhymes we used as kids? (Counting-out rhymes have a fixed length and are often composed of syllables/words that seem to be nonsense.) Are they close relatives, in spite of using different syllables/word?

Do you mean, like, eeny meeny miney moe? I’m not sure what “counting out” means otherwise.