Terminator 2

First off, they are beyond trying to convince anyone that terminators are real. That didn’t work. So instead they want to go for incognito. Disappear into the jungles of South America if that’s what it takes.

Yes, if he gets his chest and back riddled with bullets he could just wear a shirt/coat. What if he takes one to the face? Later he gets the skin on his forehead scraped off. Short term he’ll have to accept it, but long term that could get really inconvenient.

Why wouldn’t it be? If there’s sufficient clearance, then it’s possible. It’s not like a bridge creates a pocket of negative gravity or something.

When did that happen?

Well then, that explains it.

Wait, you’re telling me this and this are the same person?

http://www.flixster.com/photos/jenette-goldstein-terminator-2-judgment-day-janelle-voight-10873861

Apparently so. I never would have guessed.

I never got the impression he learned the phrase from Paxton, myself. He just picked “Fuck you, asshole” from a list of stock phrases. The “terminator-cam” view shows:

POSSIBLE RESPONSE:
YES/NO
OR WHAT?
GO AWAY
PLEASE COME BACK LATER
FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE
FUCK YOU

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3D modeling is computationally expensive, even when all you’re trying to render is a static image. Video is even more so. I can’t even imagine what it takes to render a real-world object, let alone a self-powered one that moves. Even for magic-tech Terminators, it’s not unreasonable that it wouldn’t be trivially easy for them to do.

So the T-1000 had a complete library of “Robert Patrick” facial expressions, walking motions, him in various police uniforms (i.e. as a beat cop and as a motorcycle cop)… yeah, I can see it being easier to keep reverting to these defaults than try to appear as something else and not getting the movements right.

It’s an objection that occurred to me at the time, wondering why the T-1000 kept reverting to Robert Patrick even after the T-800 and the Connors recognized that appearance, but it never ruined the movie for me.

As a minor afterthought, the guys who created the FX also had a library of “Robert Patrick” facial expressions, walking motions, him in various police uniforms (i.e. as a beat cop and as a motorcycle cop) because they had the real Robert Patrick who was willing to play along with all the tedious motion-capture stuff, at a time when the technical aspects of motion-capture were still being figured out. Trying to train a second actor (who presumably would play the T-1000 in the latter part of the film after it realized it should change “disguises”) would be a real hassle, let alone the idea of running multiple actors through the process. Heck, the T-1000’s longest alternate appearance was played by Dan Stanton (who got to give his twin brother Don “the finger”, while Don was playing a guard named Lewis) and just the brief morphing effects that required a recognizable Stanton (i.e. the end of the rising-from-the-floor bit) must have been a nuisance, and Stanton’s performance is particularly (and a bit jarringly) stone faced and stiff, I assume because Cameron told him “Okay, you’re a robot. Action!”

Also killed in AVP by a Predator.

Not really. I can render a photorealistic object on my 5 year old desktop PC using Autodesk 3ds Max.

Ah, but can you kill a man with it?

That was the impression I got in 1984. Check out this scene, about 47 seconds in

That’s a slander on the whole Austrian population.

This makes no sense. Sure he can make simple objects but a quadraped designed for optimal running is the exact opposite of that. He would have to sample something of that design to make it work. Even if he did have something like that in the database he would have lost precious seconds while morphing into that. It makes far more sense for him to keep the form he’s in and just haul ass.

The other issues of why he didn’t sample more people or perhaps kill a dog or two and just walk up to John is a much worse plothole. A dog in particular would have been a good idea if it barked at some stranger Arnie and Sarah might take that to mean that the other person in the Terminator and might even take the dog close to John so he could be ‘protected’ by the early alert system…would have to be a big dog though.

Cheetahs have chemicals, moving parts. It doesn’t work that way.

On review, it’s not clear that Paxton’s character is actually killed. I feel comfortable assuming so, though, because that’s what Terminators do.

Anyway, the Terminator repeats back two phrases, partly, neither of which is “Fuck you, asshole”, and I don’t recall him saying “nice night for a walk” or “nothing clean, right” at any point later in the film, nor does Paxton (or either of his buddies) otherwise contribute to the list of:

YES/NO
OR WHAT?
GO AWAY
PLEASE COME BACK LATER
FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE
FUCK YOU
So I vote coincidence.

With these weapons? I don’t know.
The real answer to the why Robert Pattrick question is that you want the audience to identify and connect with a specific villain, not some amorphous blob or a rotating bunch of faces. Sure, it probably makes more sense if the T-1000 pursued Connor as some random person on the street or a little girl or even a stray dog. But it would make a lame story.

I still disagree. We see during the fight at the end that he’s quite capable of improvisation and quick morphing “in the action”, so to speak, such as when he gets slammed into the wall and changes which way he’s facing, and when he grabs the crowbar in his stomach.

But really it’s a pointless discussion. There are certainly many things he could have done to improve his odds of killing JC that he didn’t do.

The T-1000 must be vulnerable to greater damage while morphing. Otherwise, why not just drop into the elevator with them when they’re escaping Pescadero? He could have easily skewered everyone in there but instead he just stabs through the ceiling at them.

Heck, at that point he can start impersonating Sarah Connor, since he touches her by slicing open the back of her shoulder. And probably also John Connor shortly thereafter, when John grabs and discards a chunk of the T-1000’s “hand”, to be reabsorbed.

I’m not sure how the T-1000 successfully copies Lewis the guard, having only made physical contact with the soles of his boots. It might have been amusing for the T-1000 to copy Lewis’s boots… and then kick his ass.

And I guess he is more vulnerable in mid-morph, hence telling the pilot to get out of the helicopter instead of expending the energy to kill him. Or maybe the T-1000 realized he could fly faster without the pilot’s weight and taking the time to dump his body would waste precious seconds. I get that the T-1000 isn’t used to its full (and rather awesome) potential, but when is any sci-fi concept?

I don’t believe he could mimic a little girl. Too much size difference. Maybe he could do a dog, but it would have to be a pretty large breed, which would probably not make the best way to randomly approach his target. People tend to be wary of large, strange canines.

Best approach might have been to just hide at the foster parents home mimicing their floor and never go to the mall at all.

That sounds logical, but it would have failed because the T-800 would have made contact at the mall. Without the initial gun battle, it’s unclear if John would have bought that the T-800 was there to protect him, but the T-800 would have just grabbed him and took him out of the city by force.

And the T-1000 had reason to suspect this might happen, since John’s foster parents mention that “some big guy” (or words to that effect) had been by the house earlier looking for John.

Fanwank : presumably, Arnold could spot him anyway with that analyzing red vision of his, so T-1000 goes for the “intimidate the fleshbags into uselessness” tac instead.

Heck, Arnold could spot him while looking at a rearview mirror at a pursuing helicopter while thundering down a highway at night.

“It’s him.”