There are a variety of Bluetooth codes that have different audio quality. On my galaxy S8 I can go into developer options to see which one is being used. I’m curious as to which the Model 3 uses. It’s my understanding that the base A2DP SBC is about the quality of a mid-level mp3, but aptX approaches CD quality.
On my home system I can easily tell the difference between streamed Pandora and flac files. It was enough to get me to rerip all of my CDs. In my car, and on my Bluetooth headphones I can’t tell the difference.
My guess is the best will be some flac files on a USB stick. Can it do that?
Just tried FLAC over USB and it works great! That’s probably the way to go, at least for music I own. There are two front USB ports, and I only need one for charging. Just bought a big USB stick for the other port.
I have a Galaxy S6. There was no obvious place where the codec was listed but I’ll check out the developer options–thanks.
Per Motortrend, the 2017 Escape has a skidpad measurement of 0.81/0.82/0.80 g, depending on the trim level, and figure 8 average g’s of 0.63/0.59/0.57.
Per Motortrend, the tesla 3 has a skidpad of 0.87 g with a figure 8 of 0.74 g (avg)
Obviously, all this proves is that car magazine testing methodology can be somewhat inconsistent.
Does the Model 3 have the audio features where you can basically play anything - just say “Play XXX” and it will find it, streaming, radio, podcasts, etc.?
Question on storage space. I’ve seen that the Model 3 is listed as having 15 cubic feet of storage, but I’m not clear if this is the trunk alone, or trunk plus frunk. Can anyone clear up?
not surprising; skidpad/f8 performance is about grip, weight distribution, and weight transfer. the Escape is taller and has ~60/40 F/R weight distribution, so its behavior is unsurprising compared to the model 3 (48/52 F/R with much of it in the floor.)
I tried “play KQED” and it found the correct FM station. “play pink floyd”, “play classic rock”, and “play freakonomics podcast” all worked as expected. I could not get it to search songs on the USB stick, though, and couldn’t find a way to just play from the stick generically.
I believe it’s both. However, the frunk is pretty small–well under 2 cubic feet. So it’s not a tremendous loss if you decide not to include it in the calculations. I probably won’t be using it much myself since I’m rarely at the limits of storage and the frunk is a bit less convenient than the trunk.
Someday one of you will walk up to the other and say “Oh man, I walked out and thought ‘OH HOLY SHIT, what happened to my car!’, then I realized it was your car.”
That already sorta happened. The other day, I parked several spaces away, but he was in the exact spot that I’d been in the previous day. I guessed wrong when I got back to it and spent a minute or two trying to figure out if the phone key wasn’t working or if I just had the wrong car. He still had the dealer plates on at that point, and we both keep a pretty tidy interior, so there was really no way to tell the difference physically short of checking the VIN.
yah, I pulled the numbers from Car and Driver which was .85 for the Escape and .84 for the Model 3. Still, my point was that I was expecting more from a mid 13 second sport car.
Musk has been pretty clear about the numbers if you listen to the conference calls and other material.
First, he’s always indicated that we should expect step-wise improvements in production. I.e, not a case of making 2000 this week and 2100 next week, but rather stretches of one production rate limited by some factor, and then a jump to a new rate after that factor is ameliorated. I believe the current limit is the parts distribution system in Fremont, though there are some indications that it’s back to pack production in Nevada. Depends on whether the new German equipment is fully online or not.
Musk has also said (from pretty far back) that he believes around 6000/wk is doable without a new line. This should not be confused with the 5000/wk target that they’ve been aiming for. 6k is just the (theoretical) peak they can hit before requiring significant additional capital expenditures. 5k/wk is their public target from a while back. We should expect internal “aspirational” targets to differ from external “achievable” ones.
Let’s also not forget that even a 2k/wk, the Model 3 is by far the best selling EV in the US.
Have you decided what model year goes on your car’s registration? Does the DMV just leave it blank? This has been going on for a long time.
I haven’t kept up with the conference calls. Was a 3rd shift part of the original plan? Is the extra cost of that shift theoretical or does it go on the books as an extra expense?
It’s 2018. There’s no functional difference from 2017, but the year is encoded into the VIN.
That was not mentioned, but the number was in the context of capital expenses–robots and shit. A third shift would not be in that category. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was assumed in the number, since Musk was talking about theoretical limits here, and if they aren’t running 24/7, then they obviously aren’t at the limit. I’m actually a little surprised they aren’t running 3 shifts already, but maybe they’re still fine-tuning things so frequently that they need the downtime.
I lived in NOVA for a number of years, Skyline Drive in the Fall is breathtakingly beautiful, and you’re right: depending on time of day/year it was always a good place to “carve canyons”.
RE: the road noise. If you decide to add summer performance tires and larger rims, that issue is going to get worse, not better. The Michelin Primacy mxm 4’s are very good all season tires, and they’re pretty quiet (especially on my 2015 Buick Regal).
LOL @ “I didn’t want to press the car to it’s limits” due to “bicyclists and crap” should be amended to include “steep cliffs and guard rails”.
Even with the MXM 4 tires it should have achieved at least a moderately better skidpad than 0.84. My Regal gets the same skidpad rating on the same sized tires in a heavier, more body-roll prone car that has a higher center of gravity. The Tesla 3 really should be having that low center of gravity working to it’s advantage with the batteries being somewhat centrally located and in the floor of the car. Having a higher center of gravity is worse for handling, not better. I can’t think of any instance where it is.
Comparing to the Escape is just silly anyway, the 3 is a sports sedan and the Escape is a crossover SUV. The only handling element the Escape may have over the 3 is the narrow wheelbase helping to make up for that ride height.
I’ve read the steering described as “numb” by many critics, and your steering settings just add more weighted steering than anything else.
Curious: under full throttle (remember, there’s no “break in period” with this car), how does the transmission bang out shifts? Is the response fairly immediate or does it “hunt” for gears? Speaking of which, I don’t even know what kind of tranny the 3 even has…probably not a conventional one.
ETA: summer tires will not only improve your grip, but braking distances as well.
