Did you bother to read the article at all? Did you read this part?
They told the lower court to go back and do it right. That’s all. But no - you guys have to run around in circles and scream that the sky is falling and Texas is denying this and that and something else.
Jesus fucking Christ, I wish you libs would grow up.
I wish you regressives would grow a spine. I asked you whether you thought I should be able to get health insurance through my husband’s work policy like straight married people.
Like the coward you are, you did not answer-----the courts will figure it out.
fervour, the reason Scumpup suggested I was a slavery apologist was that he and I have had a generally tongue-in-cheek debate for years about the children’s show “Thomas the Tank Engine,” and whether the Island of Sodor’s use of the trains as labor is slave labor.
It was not, in other words, a serious accusation for real-world issues. It was a joke.
Yes, it was. Bricker is, by and large, one of my favorite people on this board. He is no apologist for slavery. He is just duped by The Fat Controller.
The trial court ordered the Mayor NOT to provide benefits to spouses in same-sex marriages, at least until there was a full trial. I assume most people here think that was BAD.
The Supreme Court of Texas ordered the lower court to NOT DO IT THAT WAY. I assume most people here think that was GOOD.
Agreed Clothahump. I can’t remember the source where I initially read this story but things weren’t too clear. It wasn’t until I reread the article and kept noodling around the page to where I was able to figure out just what was going on, i.e., telling a lower court to revisit the issue.
You have not understood it at all considering the analogy you used. It’s literally the opposite of what happened.
The analogy is more like, people dispute what the actual interest rate is. Jay orders that they use the alternate rate.
People protest to management. Management says we’ll use use the original rate on the website until we decide what the rate should be and before sending out bills we will so decide.
Alternate rate supporters go to the regional HQ about the website, not the bills. While the matter is there the Regulator announces that alternate rate is the one to use. Regional HQ declares the matter moot.
Original rate supporters go to Corporate HQ. Who say that the website will display the Alternate now approved rates and the calculation of the bills should be done in line with the regulators last announcement.
Obviously you are not going through that since you don’t have two brain cells to rub together. However for those that do.
All Obergefell is precedent for is that same sex couples cannot be refused a marriage license while opposite sex couples are no so refused.
At least directly it is not a precedent for anything else.
There are other question. For instance. Do married same sex couples have the same right to get benefits as opposite sex ones. This was the question before the Trial Court in Texas but *not *before the Texas Supreme Court, who have asked the Trial Court to decide the matter in line with new precedent.
As for the above question, I would say that while Obergefell does not directly answer this question, it certainly lends great support to the proposition that yes, they do. Combined with other lines of SCOTUS precedent, the answer is almost certainly yes. That is the decision that the Trial Court is likely to come up with, a decision which the Texan Supreme Court would likely affirm.
Of course the above is not the only issue that might arise. For instance, do benefits have to be retroactively given? If so, from when? The date of the handing down of Obergefell? The date when the couple was validly married under that State’s law? The date when they were married under the law of some other juridiction? For instance, if Adam and Steve were married in Canada, 10 years ago and Steve has worked for the City of Houston since 2010, then when does the benefits kick in?
I KNOW you, AK84. You aren’t going to goad me to posting something stupid. You are up in the middle of the night because you are drunk. -------Didn’t think I’d notice the typos?
I hope your life turns out good. I hope you have no pain. I hope you end life thinking, “that was amazing!”
It was 11:34 a.m where I am when I posted. Clearly we can add knowledge of timezones and the concept of global connectivity to the list of topics that elude you.
But I don’t feel it in a bad way. I really do want your life to be fine. When I read your texts it doesn’t feel fine. I feel ashamed to have this public conversation. What do you want?
Really, what do you want?----If it were my last day on earth, I would say, “That was FUCKING awesome.” I wish the same for you. I’ve had 21 years with the most kind? generous? awesome? person.
So, I’m not complaining. I do have back pain-----a very specific arthritis. Well, it can either be fixed—or medicated-----or I’m outta here. I’ve a Dr’s appointment Wednesday. What more can I say?
fervour, the denial of equal rights to people makes me as angry as anyone, but you’re not speaking or acting rationally here. Take a while, come back when you’re less mad, and more willing to understand what’s going on and what the next steps to take are.
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