Moslems say, presumably from the Quran, that it was Ishmail.
well, zoe…
i am a psychitrist and you sound crazy to me! maybe not ready for
the rubber room, but headed that way…take your straight
jacket with you.
“the doc had just told his patient that he thought the patient was crazy. this made the patient a little warm under the collar and he said he wanted a second opinion. the doc looked at him for a bit and said “well, you’re ugly”.”
so you see, everything is relative…maybe you aren’t crazy at all.
abit of philosophy…people are no damned good except for you and me and i’m not so sure about you.
Zoe, her doctor had even told her and her husband that Yates should NOT have had their last child-that if she got pregnant again it could push her over the edge. And sadly, it did.
It was not only a tragedy-but that it so obviously could have been prevented makes it a disaster.

Gee, **bullets[/], thanks for that contribution.