Those letters in that order would be worth zero, since Proper nouns are strictly verboten! Also, there is only 1 x in the bag.
Nice refute. :rolleyes:
OK, how much science does RationalWiki vociferously deny?
As for the dwarf: If your club says that people who did horrible things are good because they did those horrible things, maybe your club is not, morally speaking, on the side of the angels.
So, once this goes through, MT is now officially a Nun of the Above?
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It does not differ materially from her position, so far as I am aware.
Er… yes.
Strictly speaking, beatification is a finding that the person is in Heaven and a permission for local veneration, while canonization is a decree that the person s in heaven and may be universally venerated.
I glossed over that distinction for the sake of simplicity, but you’re quite correct.
Maybe you are not hip to all the things that the angels favor. I’d say that the angels don’t want people to gain a benefit here on Earth at the risk of imperiling their immortal soul in the afterlife.
Now, of course, you may disagree that there is any such thing as the afterlife…but if so, I’d say reliance on angels is *a priori *misplaced.
Ah. I misunderstood:
I overlooked or misread “supporting” and therefore wondered if you had included “not” inadvertently.
But, a Category 2 complaint is not tautological. Nor is it weak. It is, rather, a criticism – and at least conceivably, you must admit, a valid one – of the Church and its policies, but it is not in any sense a tautology. To say “MT was a good Catholic because she agreed with and followed Church doctrine on X, Y and Z,” that is tautological.
Not in the metaphorical (and higher than doctrinal) sense that “on the side of the angels” is generally intended and understood to mean, it isn’t.
Both (1) and (2) are complaints about the Church choosing to canonize Mother Teresa. The complaint is not a general one, then, but a compliant about the choice to canonize, and is thus implicitly an extension of "Mother T was a good (or perhaps a better word is ‘observant’ or ‘faithful’) Catholic.
Outside that narrow context, to be sure, Category (2) complaints are perfectly valid. But this thread appears to take issue with the decision of the Church to canonize, as opposed to simply being a litany of complaints about Church positions or beliefs.
Of course, threads take all sorts of directions. I suppose that the thread may inevitably morph into a more general attack platform. But my commentary arose in the original narrow context. If someone wants to complain about Mother T’s opposition to abortion and the Catholic Church’s opposition to abortion…I certainly can’t stop it. But I have no interest in another abortion thread.
If someone wants to claim that the Church should have found Mother T’s opposition to abortion as somehow disqualifying her for canonization, that’s where we board the train to Tautology Town.
Ahh. Not actual angels, then, but rather a phrase that means, “…in accord with my view of morality?”
Does the Catholic Church believe in accepting money for charity under false or at least misleading pretenses?
Does the the Catholic Church believe in refusing to return donations which turn out to have been stolen?
Does the Catholic Church believe in withholding pain relieving medication from those who need it because pain is somehow holy?
Because I went through 12 years of Catholic school, with straight A’s in every religion class I took, and I don’t remember learning any of that.
Assuming I’m correct, and the CC doesn’t believe in any of those, would it be reasonable to question why a person guilty of all of those things is still granted sainthood?
No.
Too fact-dependent to answer.
There is a tradition of “offering up” suffering for the poor souls in Purgatory, or indeed for any general or specific intentions. See also the examples of St. Thérèse of Lisieux, or Padre Pio. But as a general rule, this is penitential behavior that must be voluntarily assumed. In other words, the Church doesn’t have any prohibitions against taking pain medication, but doesn’t require that people take it.
It’s almost never unreasonable to question anything. But I would suggest that your recollection of the qualities for sainthood might be a bit flawed. You do understand that the process is not reserved for those that are without sin, yes?
And I’d be curious to hear the precise allegation against Mother Teresa that involves refusing to return a donation that turned out to be stolen.
Choosing saints seems like a Catholic thing for Catholics – I’m not inclined to criticize it any more than I’ll criticize how they administer communion.
But from my reading, my opinion of Mother Theresa is that she had priorities that she valued far more than easing suffering, healing and caring for the sick, and the like, and I think that reflects very poorly on her.
Nice rebuke.
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I wonder… does this witch or two faced cow or albanian dwarf help out the poor and sick and disabled physically - seems like people who need help may not know how to or even be capable of spending money? It doesn’t sound like you’re very sure as to what this person is so just wondering how you would know anything about donations concerning them.
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If you “can’t say” hospital (I assume you mean that you aren’t able to according to law) I wonder if maybe because it isn’t one or rather, considered to be one wherever it is you live? If you believe that one should die at the word of the Lord then it would happen. According to the Bible (and its several hundred rewrites) HE is the only one able to judge us and not one of us are able to succeed his power; nor is HIS love for someone penetrable.
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Unless the currency of Pesos to US Dollars has changed to 1 for 1 then a “centavo” is not “a cent” its one hundredth the worth of a Peso.
I hope none of my response to your post offends you as that was not my intention.
If someone is rewarded something most likely a majority agrees that this “honor” is warranted and/or deserved.
In case you aren’t aware of her relationship with Charles Keating:
Nice impute.
Obviously, I disagree. It’s one thing to do things which may appear wrong if you believe you’re achieving some greater good. But if you don’t believe in the greater good, you’re just doing wrong.