Yeah, certainly cannot be the women in this thread.
Ok, yeah, I am wrong. You all are Divas of Fashion wearing holey sweats and plain shirts. You, nor the majority of women don’t spend an inordinate amount of time shopping for clothes at places likes Forever 21, The Gap, The Buckle, and the hundreds of thousands of other classy stores in the bazzillion of malls that only a small minorty of women shop in.
My perceptions are faulty, and only include a thousand or so people, seeing how I ONLY work in retail pharmacy and only see a wide range of ages, and they all happen to be the minority of women that are fashinably dressed. Also the minority of women that are fashionable also go to my school in droves, and the majority of women that are wearing holey sweats and lack a desire to be fashionable go to another college. My friends and coworkers that are female are oddities, as well as my parents foriegn exchange student that is from Japan, she is an oddity and like shopping and dressing fashionably too.
Nah, couldn’t be you, has to be myself that is crazy. Yeah.
This board, unfortunately is never a good place to talk about what “average” people wear or what they do or how they act. Because a few lock ins that spend way too much time on the computer raising kids, or lacking in social life, are a much better demograph to judge the MAJORITY of people.
I am done arguing this, you are all right, I am wrong. :rolleyes:
But, Epi, they’re all so proud of their “disgusting sweatpants.” Can’t you see? This is the fashion trend of the new millenium? :rolleyes:
Ftr, I don’t think you’re entirely wrong in your assessment. I think you have a pretty good understanding of the topic. I don’t know anyone who goes around like a slob, except maybe a few of the cows here at work.
Again, there’s a happy medium between sexy and slob. And why do you have to wait for a special occasion to put on something nicer than sweatpants? I just think it’s a nice treat for my SO if I look a little nicer than usual, and not for any other reason than I just wanted to dress up for him. And I don’t think that’s being shallow, or indicative of the fact that he doesn’t truly love me and I need to constantly impress him just to keep him. I actively want to amaze him with my body and my looks. It shows that I care about him and I’m making that extra little effort to look nice for him.
I’m finding that I’m having a bit of trouble properly putting my opinions into words, so I apologize if there is any confusion.
Well, to be fair, and to make another hasty generalization, I did bring it upon myself. I think these ladies here are not so much arguing against me because I am way off base, I think they are arguing against me soley for the fact that I was rude. And just kept getting ruder as my anger levels increased. Either way comparing generalization on this board with the general population is pretty dumb anyhow. Look at homaphobic people or racists. There are hardly any here, but they are abundant out in the real world. Hardly a fair demograph. But as smart as some of the people are on this board, none of them seem to see this small flaw.
Another poster was disagreeing with what you said, and mistakenly directing her exasperation at me. I can’t think of a more concise or more neutral way to point that out. If anyone’s acting like a 7 year old, I’d say it’s you.
By the way, I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, Jennyrosity. I just happen to believe that ones character comes from within, and that clothes and other possessions are mere superficialities. I absolutely agree that a lot of young people (and older people too) go through a phase of trying to define themselves through their external appearance. I just don’t happen to be of the opinion that this is a good thing. I think it’s a bad thing, and hopefully as they mature, they will come to realize (as you did) that your character is about more than your clothes. I’m sorry that it offends you for me to think this, but that’s how I feel.
Jeebus-could you be more offensive? color me stupid, but it appears to me that it is YOU that doesn’t like your assumptions challenged or your perceptions modified. Yo-last time! Not all women live to shop. Not all women even like to shop. But, yes, there are enough women and MEN who like it enough to keep the malls in business. How is this news?
In no way does that mean that those who don’t like to follow fashion loll around in sloth and holey, smelly clothes.
Yeah-so women TEND to like to shop more then most men. So what? I know guys who shop for and with their wives and enjoy it. I also know the other extreme. Whatever.
2 threads about this and I still don’t see your point. I don’t think you have a point.
Actually, I’m not particularly defensive either. I just thought you came accross as rather snarky to LaurAnge up there, and for a rather moronic reason - If the only reason your SO is impressed with you is because you’re pretty and well groomed, I just find that sort of sad.
You two are both bitches. I’ve tried to iron this out, but fuck you. I’m not in the mood to have someone sit and make up scenarios about me. I make one little remark about dressing nice as part of keeping a guy happy and it blows up!!! Talk about snarky, you two have the snark market cornered.
Like it or not, couples do things to make *each other * happy. For some that includes dressing nice, for others that means baking up a mean ham casserole with the good kinda processed cheese. Fucking A!
I’ve got a million and one qualities beyond my looks, and that’s why my fiance loves me. But, really, I don’t think I need to defend that to you.
It wasn’t an “automatic assumption” - it was an assumption based on reality and remembering what my teen years were like. If these girls dressing provocatively (and they usually are in their teens or early twenties) are completely comfortable with their sexuality, doing whatever they want, whenever they want, and don’t feel any pressure from the opposite sex, good for them. I truly mean that. I’m not a prude by any stretch of the imagination, and I don’t look down on anyone’s sexuality.
Female sexuality is very complicated and confused, however, and even in this “enlightened” day, there are still a lot of mixed messages being given to girls. “Now, let’s see, in church they say sex is bad, at school they say sex is sometimes okay, if you love the guy, on tv they say do anything with anybody any time, my boyfriend says he loves me, but he’ll leave me if I don’t sleep with him…” Gee, nothing confusing about that. But this is about a couple more threads worth of hijack, here.
Based on reality? For many girls, yes, I’ve no doubt of that. But your original post didn’t leave open any other possibilities. It was “automatic” in the sense that you summarily and without qualification assigned the “skanks” to the category of “insecure.” I see now that you’re aware that many of thong-showers aren’t, and I’m glad of that, and I hope you can see where your post troubled me.
I’ll second this. If I’d been paying more attention, I wouldn’t have even bothered to post myself.
