I wouldn’t necessarily disagree.
And any semi-automatic weapon. And any lever action weapon with decent magazine capacity, etc. I can empty a six shot revolver reasonably accurately in seconds…probably close to one second per round, maybe faster.
I guess enipla just banned your revolver then.
I have some things I’d really like to say regarding what I think is a supportable interpretation on what the Second Amendment is promising and what it isn’t, especially with regards to where the line between allowable and unallowable weapons could/should be drawn; but that’s debate territory. Anyone for opening a separate thread in GD?
If you stick to stating why you voted the way you did and/or asking for others to clarify what they mean, you should be fine.
Can’t find a definition for Area Weapons online, but I would not consider any man portable single shot an Area Weapon.
trying again
Technically speaking, you can’t dump the 2nd anymore than we dumped the 18th. Prohibition is still in there, it’s just been repealed by the 21st. The 2nd has already been clarified using things like the 1934, 1968, and 1986 firearms acts. I guess fixing would just reformulate those into a constitutional amendment, and some of those might be good and some bad. So while fixing might be closer to my true answer, keep is the least ambiguous and it doesn’t suggest that I prefer the status quo without reservations.
I’d be interested in the results we’d get if we conducted this same poll with the more traditional “marry fuck kill” options.
Except they’re not illegal for civilian possession. (Other than the nuclear warhead, but let’s get real here. The missile itself, might not be illegal to own, provided you registered the rocket as a DD—see below—and the missile didn’t run afoul of any number of other laws. The warhead’s going to fall under, as a starter, the special nuclear material statutes at 42 USC 2071 et seq, and probably a whole bunch of other regulations besides)
You can own a machine gun made before 1986, provided you jump through a bunch of bureaucratic hoops. You can even shoot it full-auto, provided you have the Brinks truck of money to feed it. Events like the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot exult in this sort of thing. As far as the M72 LAW rocket and launcher, I invite correction, but IIRC, possession of it is fine too, provided you register it as a Destructive Device and comply with all of the storage and transfer requirements etc… I don’t believe you can actually discharge the weapon, however.
And of course, your local state or municipality might have statutes/ordinances prohibiting possession of your bit of ordnance. But a blanket statement that machine guns are illegal for civilians to own is simply incorrect.
Oh. Thanks for the correction. It made me read up on the 1934 firearms act.
Maybe it’s brazen of me to interpret differently than the SCOTUS, but to clarify my opinion, I think all of the laws that tax and/or regulate any weapon possession, run afoul of the phrasing “the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
So for intellectual honesty, if nothing else, I’d like a new amendment that supersedes the original and resolves that mess.
Dump. In first world countries where private ownership of guns is de facto illegal, the murder rate is 80-90% lower than in the United States. Sounds good to me.
This is not even close to true. I lived for years in Nashville, TN. Tennessee not only was among the earliest states to issue concealed carry permits, but has also pushed to allow people to carry guns into restaurants, bars, and such, and otherwise been in the lead in having one of the most pro-gun governments in the nation. Crime rates in Nashville are sky-high, and in most other TN cities as well. And I can testify that hearing gunfire and wondering who just got killed is a regular occurence in several places in Nashville. Nor is that the only example I know of. I know people who live in a number of places with permissive gun laws and high crime rates. My current home state of Virginia has several cities with very high crime rates.
Cities often have high crime rates. Glad I don’t live in one. In the fall, I often hear gunfire in the early morning out where I live. I wonder who just filled their deer tag, or who will be having wild turkey, squirrel, or rabbit for supper. Murder isn’t likely here. Think there were less than a handful of murder cases in my county last year, and most of those where Depraved Heart cases, usually involving alcohol/drugs and a motor vehicle.
I said dump, but mostly out of peevishness. As others have said, way too much focus is given to this one issue, to the point of neglecting everything else. In reality, I’d probably fix or even just keep.
But most of Lansing’s a ghetto. I’ve yet to hear suspicious gunfire in Clinton Township, so I guess our shall-issue here is just as good as strict control in Brisbane.
Fix= “The right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Skip the intro, which has caused much argle-bargle.
Sorry, thought we were comparing cities. I never heard any gunfire other than hunting rifles most places I lived in America, so that’s nice. However, I did get news about horrific massacres. You’re the second person in a few posts who said, basically, “Oh yes, the cities are screwed. I live in the country, though, and lax gun laws work totally well for us!” Seems short-sighted to me.
Fix to clarify if gun ownership is an individual right or not.
Country? Clinton Township has 3392 people per square mile! Lansing is comparable at 3404.
I voted “fix,” meaning get rid of the dependent nominative absolute clause, so that the left has no excuse to argue that individual firearms ownership is obviated by the National Guard.