The American Coup: 11.9.2020 -

Yes. But what I am saying is there will not be the votes. His no longer being there will give plausible cover to those arguing it’s moot and refusing to vote for it and I have no reason to doubt there would be at least 34 of them.

My wife and I were both thinking that it looked so robotic that it almost looked fake, or that Trump had been sedated.

The 25th would make pence acting. It doesn’t remove the president, it takes the power from him, and gives it to the vp.

No doubt, but badging the mob past the barriers seems like entrapment.

Yes, there is a SCOTUS dec.

They can refuse to let them speak, give them broom closets for offices, cut their budget, but without a 2/3rd vote, they cant refuse to seat them.

It looked to me like something police wear in the TV shows I watch. Does that mean this guy was police? Or did the rioters order them from the military/LEO supply store?

You can buy them privately. Again, I’ve been calling these guys LARP militia. They dress for the revolution they imagine themselves to be conducting.

Good article. I really love Scalzi’s books. Redshirts was hilarious.

IMVHO, the worst thing about the electoral college as-is is the winner-take-all aspect.

If I could change it:

  1. The voters of each congressional district would choose one elector (using the same ballot that is used in the general election).
  2. The voters of each state as a whole would choose two electors.
  3. The electors would each vote for two people for Pres and VP.
  4. The person who gets the most votes becomes the pres.
  5. The person who gets the second-most votes becomes the VP.

Steps 1 and 2 give each state the same number of electors they currently have. Steps 3-5 are, of course, the way the Pres and VP were originally chosen. Ranked-choice voting would be used.
The procedure for breaking a possible tie would be established well before the election – a run-off vote, a series of coin flips, whatever. (My choice: All individuals involved in the tie roll 5d20, and high roll wins. The same five dice would be rolled by all candiddates, of course, to prevent accusations of loaded dice.)

Alternatively, the two electoral votes from step 2 would both go automatically to the winner of the state’s popular vote.

If you use a walkie talkie there are multiple types of accessories you can use depending on your exact usage. You dont have to be a cop.

Also…

Like I said, a national security nightmare. Impeach Trump.

Good to see that the charges and arrests are starting to snowball.

I want trump to be boxed in so he can’t pardon any of these people.

No, remember the GOP lives in Bizzaroland , whatever they accuse the dems of doing is what they are doing themselves.

Honestly, the FBI should be looking for a pizza place run by a MAGA, and dig up the bodies in the basement.

Just had to post this quote from GreenWyvern’s link above to the John Scalzi article. I think it hits the nail on the head:

There was a Republican mob at the Capitol yesterday because the GOP put them there . Not just yesterday, or through the course of the election, or the four years of the Trump administration. The storming of the Capitol is the (current) culmination of a decades-long project by Republicans, a project of denial, in which they didn’t recognize the validity of power being shared, or the equality of the other party, or the supremacy or desirability of democracy, if democracy meant a diminishment of their power and goals.

Sucks for her she’s in Menlo Park. She could have quietly MAGA’ed and nobody would have cared.

It’s entirely possible that there were foreign spies (or traitors working with them) in the crowd.

Yes, but Pence would be ACTING prez, and not the 26th prez.

You’re right. He looks nothing like Teddy Roosevelt.
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Problem with this, it makes gerrymandering of congressional districts even more desirable to the parties. Rather assign the state’s electoral votes proportional to the statewide popular vote.

Fast moving thread…