Then put it to a vote and see where the scum stand.
Takes 2/3rds
The man tried to overthrow your government!
It’s not vindictive to punish him.
Right. Don’t make the other party angry. You know, the ones who sent a crowd to try to kill you. Actually doing something about that might make them upset. Best to just pretend it never happened.
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The way I heard it he was identified by internet peoples, who also cached his social media before it could be taken down.
Aye; the twitter thread that ID’d both ZipTieGuys was linked earlier in the thread, IIRC.
Turns out Mr. Brock did an interview with The New Yorker just the other day:
And the Washington Post has more info on him and on Mr. Munchel:
Interesting writeup about how mommy’s little flex cuff jerkoff was ID’d.
That was what the zip-ties were for, I assume?
Ah, the ex-s. Always a major source of intel:
That sweatshirt was disgusting and despicable and I wouldn’t be against the guy losing a job (or customers, whatever he does) but we can’t start policing the words on people’s shirts.
True, but it sure helps to find them. Not many wearing that kind of shirt.
The best part of that article is this:
BAM! Conspiracy charges.
Germany does, for good reason. In Germany that would be a crime.
On CNN as the rioters were just getting through the first line of police, before it got really bad, a CNN reporter went up to a guy who proudly gave his name, he was in Bikers for Trump, and that was his line. The reporter immediatley said “Thank you” and walked away. Well sure, it is his House and my House and your House. But that mentality, the reporter coujld have asked him, “So, if a mob came to the headquarters of Bikers for Trump pounding on the doors, you would be OK with just letting them all in”?
I’m not criticizing the reporter, I am thankful for him and all the other journalists there. Can you imagine being inside with thousands of violent rioters and filming it?
Someone should start a Go Fund Me or something like that campaign, and ask for donations for every single journalist that documented this. They are goddamn national heroes.
Well, all the best footage came from the perpetrators. It’s like the joke that Hitler wasn’t all bad - after all, he didn’t let Hitler escape alive. I guess I’d be fine with awarding them a joint Pulitzer if it comes with an appropriate prison sentence.
I thought y’all would like to see this:
From here:
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/abc-news-rioting-democracy-011021
I have to disagree. Charging people for political reasons is just as bad as chanting “Lock 'em up!” for political reasons.
The criminal law power is one of the most intrusive powers that the government has. It authorises the state to deprive a citizen of the right to liberty. In some countries, the criminal law authorises the state to kill its citizens. Because it is so intrusive, It has to be hedged about with all sorts of procedural safeguards, to prevent it from being abused and becoming an instrument of political oppression.
One of the most important procedural safeguards is that the police and prosecutor don’t charge unless they have sufficient evidence to meet the test of a “clear likelihood of conviction.” (Phrased in different ways in different jurisdictions, but that’s the test.)
Once the police start charging “to send a message, and I don’t care if we have evidence to support it”, it’s just as corrupt as trying to overturn an election because you don’t like the outcome. The criminal charge has to be based on evidence, not to make a political point.
That’s one of the cornerstones of the rule of law, which has been taking a beating the past four years. Governments and citizens should be hanging tight to that cornerstone, as one of the key protections for a government of laws, not people.
Same with bail. The courts can’t deny bail for political reasons. That’s what courts in tin-pot dictatorships do. The rules of bail are based on things like flight risk, risk of re-offending, and so on. Adding “to send a political message” to the list would be a terrible deviation from the rule of law.
Anyone who can afford to subscribe to another newspaper or investigative news site should do so.