The Andrew Yang Presidential Campaign thread

Terrible take on abortion.

Which part? Yang says that “it should be up to the woman and her doctor and the State should not be intervening all the way through pregnancy.” And “we also stand for women’s reproductive rights.”

Beyond that, I’d like the see the whole piece in context. I’ve seen him speak about women’s reproductive issues many times. He’s said that we should leave it up to the women to decide.

Andrew Solender cut that part out in the quote, but it’s in the video clip. Solender’s been trolling the Yang Gang since the beginning.

He might stay in til Super Tuesday but don’t see him staying after that.

The part that was literally quoted: Nobody “celebrates” abortion and whether it’s a “tragedy” a woman gets an abortion is none of his fucking business. The fact that you want to bury Yang’s own words and blame the guy who Tweeted them makes me hope that all of the “Yang Gang” are not as intellectually dishonest.

Yang’s on his way out, considering his flub where it looked like he was eating in the last debate, I don’t see him lasting much longer.

I wish I knew what this meant, but I’m afraid to ask. Eating in a debate is a flub?

I’ve seen people criticize him for chewing gum all the time. I don’t think he’s doing that. I notice that he pumps his jaw when he’s feeling confident or something good happens. It sort of looks like chewing, but I don’t think he’s doing that.

In other news, Yang is soldiering on.

He’s been holding 4-5 events a day in New Hampshire. He went from Iowa at 3 am to holding meetings in NH every day all day from morning until night.

A Politico reporter followed him around for 12 hours during the Iowa caucus. He paints a picture of Yang as someone who rarely gets nervous, who has been battling a cold for the previous weeks and who hasn’t slept much in a while. He dozes off for an hour at a time between events.
12 Wild Hours With Andrew Yang

Yang was given a standing ovation, mostly by supporters of other candidates at the NHDem McIntyre-Shaheen dinner.

In a bit of weirdness, there is an Scott Andrew Yang running for judge on the California ballot along with Andrew Yang for President.

The @GOP has been going after Yang but @God is on his side. I don’t know who this person is but the account has 6.1M followers.

The mods of the Yang subreddit have shut down the sub to new posts during phone banking hours to encourage phone banking. I was opposed at first, but it looks like it’s working. Enthusiasm in the sub is still high with an average of 2-3K people at any given time with 107K subs and phone banking increased.

Nice Cuomo interviewwith Yang. Chris says that he’s never heard anyone trash Yang and that he wishes him well in NH. From the interview:

CNN is reporting that Yang is out. Not verified yet.

Reports breaking that Yang is suspending his campaign.

Not a surprise, he can probably do well in 2024 or 2028 , hopefully no Dem will run except the incumbent in 2024.

Confirmed.

Yang said that he was persuaded that the campaign’s message would not be helped by his continuing in the race.

Yang was also very clear that he will support the Democratic nominee to defeat Trump, which he has always said.

He ended by saying that the movement is not over; it’s just getting started.

His campaign was by any reasonable measure a huge success: he increased awareness of important issues, introduced himself to the voters, and left before he wore out his welcome. I look forward to seeing his next move.

Well, the measure I’d look at is votes, and his campaign was according to this measure…not a success at all. I mean, he got one percent in Iowa and finished behind Tulsi Gabbard (Tulsi Gabbard!) in New Hampshire with less than 3 percent of the vote. He also did not show much ability to run a truly professional campaign, as indicated by his inability to make the Ohio ballot (and his inability to take any share of the blame for that). Fundraising is important, and he was good at that, but he wasn’t able to translate that into votes.

I would also argue that he wore out his welcome many months ago. I don’t think Democrats are terribly interested in non-politicians who take it into their heads to run for president, for one. I’m curious to know what “important issues” he increased awareness of–seemed to me that every time he spoke during the debates he brought the conversation back to UBI. Is that an important issue? Maybe, though most Americans, even most Democrats, don’t seem to think so, but maybe it was. What other issues was he brining up that other candidates weren’t?

I do think Yang has things to say regarding the public sphere. As a math person, I like his emphasis on math, and I could see him doing excellent work in the service of STEM education. But I hope he decides to take his talents in a direction other than another run for president.

It wasn’t reasonable to ever think he was going to have a chance to win, so that’s not a fair measure. I think the percentage of Americans who know what UBI is, and the percentage who support it, have both increased significantly due to his run, though obviously it’s still a minority position. And I didn’t see anyone else talking about automation in the way he did.

I agree that winning the nomination would have been difficult, but Yang didn’t even get 10,000 votes in NH. Suggesting to me that his message was not falling on fertile soil. I mean, Bernie Sanders didn’t win or come very close in 2016, but he got 40%+ of the primary votes. Clearly his message was being heard and accepted by a significant proportion of the Democratic electorate. Yang’s, just as clearly, was not. It’s not all about whether you win–it’s also about how close you get if you don’t.

Do you have a cite that support for UBI has risen in any meaningful way, BTW? I haven’t gotten that impression, but I could be wrong.

I was kind of folding automation into UBI, as UBI is essentially Yang’s solution to what he sees as the problem of automation, but you’re right that no one else is talking about it among the current candidates.

No, I have no cites, just my WAG.

I personally found Yang an impressive guy and his ideas intriguing, though I never for a second seriously considered actually voting for him. I am more open to the idea of UBI than I was a year ago, though still not totally on board. I think a lot of people would agree with me on that, and that’s really the only criteria it’s fair to judge a campaign of this nature on; he had to have known from Day One that he had no chance of winning.

True, there are many people who run just to raise awareness of an issue. I think two succeed - Inslee focusing on climate change and Yang focusing on UBI.

If Yang really wants to make a difference he would run for a local office, something in his state, maybe even for the US House.

But thing is he (and others who make splash runs at the presidency) don’t really care about getting experience and moving up like everyone else. They want to be Jesus without the suffering.

This gives the impression that you think the MATH hats, and so on are about mathematics. I wish to point out MATH stands for Make America Think Harder. :smack:

Yang will make an excellent Vice President or Cabinet Secretary.

I actually knew that. But thanks. More to my point, he is an excellent ambassador for STEM fields. It’s not a coincidence that his acronym is MATH rather than say ENGLISH LIT or MUSIC.