The Apprentice -- 11/10/05

Personally I wasn’t that impressed with either display. Graphically both were nice, but then the teams had access to the best graphic design artists.

I think something to simulate Coruscant or a surround of the Senate chamber (where you can see all the different types of aliens once you get inside) would have been cool, with some type of high-tech Annakin/Vader morphing. Or even a simulated holograph on a flat screen doing the “Help us, you’re our only hope…” for the video game since that’s a “You Are There” project…

Anyway, I live in a town of 80,000 people, drive my own car and rarely encounter heavy traffic and I wouldn’t leave 15 minutes before a life-or-death meeting. It can take you that long to get downstairs from the first high rise and upstairs on the second if the elevators are slow or one is stalled or whatever, fhat the wuck was he thinking? I just wish that Donald had done the “I’m crushing your throat” gesture with his hand at then end instead of “You’re fired”, though I’m doubting Brian (who must be about 4 feet tall, incidentally) and Marshawn would have played along.

I’d be willing to bet my medication on Clay going home next week. The guy is just insufferable and his “screw the team, I’m out for myself” thing is worthy of Bad Idea jeans.

I also didn’t get why she didn’t make the presentation, but at the same time, I don’t think that she got a chance to explain.

Someone would ask why, she’d begin to answer, and then they’d talk over her so she couldn’t finish the answer. I doubt she had a good reason, but I would have liked to hear the really bad reason.

I loved how Clay entirely missed the point of Bill’s string of cliches.

By the way, why didn’t we hear Lucas Film guys talk about the displays? We hear the analysis on everyone else - why for them did we get the muffled voices while watching the apprentices wait?

The talking over could very well be editing for time allotment. She had numerous opportunities to explain, and had anything veered from her initial “I thought Brian could do better”, I"m pretty confident they would have showed it.

I was beginning to worry, though, about the pile-on. I thought Donald was going to fire Marshawn, and I was all set to come here and say that it was the first firing I’ve disagreed with because as bad as her copout was, Brian’s 15 minutes of shame was utterly inexcusable. Lo and behold, he fires them both.

It was the right thing to do.

I agree with a few above. She ws trying to cover her ass. If they lost, she’d be one of the main marks. It backfired on her when they ganged up, and I do mean ganged up, on her for not doing it. How many more times could they have asked her??

I heard a bit of a Russian sounding accent on her too. He did blow her off when Alla was trying to do some speaking, and that dynamic was fun to watch. She keeps talking and he keeps shrugging her off.

Isn’t sweeps coming up soon?? NBC must want the finals on during sweeps week. Gotta get rid of some people quick.

Alla, Randall and the one on crutches are a cut above. But man, that losing display was awful.

I thought part of her bad reason was that she felt that Brian had not included her all along and was then asking her to take on the presentation. As in “Why is he giving me a task so late in the project?” I still think she could have done a bad presentation and gotten away with “Who on earth could have presented this* well?” when it flopped.

I actually felt that she was given a few chances to explain in the boardroom, but she kept going around with “Brian could have done it better” and then “No, no one is better at presentations than I am” and all kinds of confusing and contradictory things. Of course, that could just be what I heard in between my 3-year-old screaming for trips to the potty and a Curious George band-aid for the imaginary booboo on her leg.

Welcome back to the Randal Ratings. Wait, I mean the Raj Ratings. I’m just confused because there hasn’t been this much of a foregone conclusion since the 1998 Yankees played. Still, this was an interesting week. One of the supposed favorites really screwed up and we are left with a final 6 that is made up of 3 contenders and 3 Stooges. This episode did sort of leave me cold though. It just didn’t really have any zip to it. Manipulate cardboard! Paste pictures to the wall! Describe your project! It’s like a 3rd grade assignment. Anyway, on to the show.

** Looking for Love: Bachelorettes in Alaska** - Or, these people are in a cold, lonely place with no hope for love or revival

Melissa, Chris, Jennifer W, Toral, Kristi, Josh, Jennifer M, James, Mark, Markus - You just know these people knew Markus was coming to meet them in the loser hotel, but even when he showed up they weren’t prepared for the horror his bloviating brought.
** Brian ** (N:N&J)- A clearly worthy firing this week considering your team was operating without information because you were dumb from the start. Was that extra hour of research worth missing a meeting. Apparently internet sites contain richer information than people that judge your design. You were essentially an outsider for the final 4 anyway so this is no big surprise. You haven’t done very much that was noteworthy on this whole show.
Marshawn (S)- Wow, what was that? Near as I can tell, your true motive for trying to get Brain to present was to keep the stink of his project off of you. Not a great call, but at least it’s a reason. Well, then why, when it was clear things were going poorly in the boardroom didn’t you actually say that? No reason is worse than a dumb reason. Maybe you wouldn’t have saved yourself, but you’d have given it more of a fighting chance than that. If you had simply given your quick spiel, you’d still be in the running with 3 or 4 people clearly behind you. Instead, you got yourself fired and gave Rebecca the chance to play the hero. I haven’t seen worse logic since Inspector Gadget was trying to solve crimes. And, you don’t have a plucky pre-teen and a mutant dog to help you.

Boot Camp - Or, in major need of a butt-kicking, but actual physical contact isn’t allowed
Clay (BC)- I think we all knew no exemption was coming Clay’s way. I didn’t think it was possible for a winning week to further hamper a PM’s chances.
Adam (BC)- One of the 3 in this group will make the final 4, maybe even the final 3. But, can you seriously see any of these 3 winning it. Clay is a hypersensitive jerk, Adam leaves about as much of an impression as a mothball on a girder, and Felisha is easier to tune out than Muzak.
Felisha (BC)- Well, you did get to play dress up this week.

Big Brother - Or, beginning the downward spiral into ultimately being canceled

Newlyweds: Nick & Jessica - Or, ultimately harmless and forgettable fluff in need of a shot in the arm

American Idol - Or, mostly positive so far but still in major danger of falling apart when a tough theme night comes around

Survivor - Or, when they’re good, they are really good. But, there are enough rough spots to keep them from the top spot
Rebecca (AI)- I think you vaulted up in Trump’s eyes this week because you did what you could to save your team. Even if you don’t do great, you made the effort for greatness. Trump will like that so you’ve earned a little slack to screw up. Of course, on this show, the screw ups tend to be monumental.
Alla (AI)- Clearly one of the top 3 on ability but that now needs to translate to placement. Still, you can probably coast just a little bit because you have acquitted yourself quite well.

The Amazing Race - Or, the king of the hill. A well oiled machine that shows no signs of slowing down unless a taxi gets in the way
Randal (TAR)- You did the best you could with what you had to work with. The team really should have let you be PM. This is a time when it’s smart for someone to lead that has knowledge of the product simply because no one else had a clue. Still, I’m bothered by the lack of Darth in your design. That seemed like a pretty obvious call. But honestly, at this point, that’s like pointing out the mole on Cindy Crawford.


The Rancic-Perdew Corollary – Clay can’t win based on his portrayal as a weirdo. Adam won’t win, simply because if someone like Andy (who had as much inexperience but more obvious talent) can’t win, you have no shot. Felisha won’t win because we haven’t seen diddly from her at this point. And, while that is very similar to Kendra last year, there are differences. Kendra was just starting to get a lot of play, Felisha still hasn’t. More importantly, Kendra could come from nowhere because there were no other strong players. Felisha is facing three that have been getting a strong edit all season long. I’m inclined to say that Alla would be next because, while shown as solid and competent, she is also shown as a little angry, crazy, and rage-driven at times. Rebecca is the runner-up because the editing shows her as the plucky utility player who is succeeding in spite of crutches. And, Randal wins because he’s pretty much awesome. I think he’s a little stronger than Kwame in season 1 and there is no Bill to usurp his title. Of course, these final predictions only survive in the logical world. Trump’s random logic and a monumental screw-up by a player would change things, but this is pretty much how it will go.

Ack, a couple more thoughts.

Do you think Marshawn ended up suffering emotional whiplash. Trump fires Brian. She immediately thinks “Well, he pretty much ripped me apart but then fired Brian. I survived, I’ll do better.” 1, 2, 3 and then Trump comes back to her and fires away. He might as well have pulled out the steel chair after the handshake in the middle of squared circle while Jim Ross yelled “My God, what is Trump doing!”

Show timing. I think last night Trump said “Welcome to week 8 of your 13 week job interview.” So, week 9 Clay is fired. Week 10 is Adam. Week 11 is Felisha. Week 12 is Alla. Week 13 is the finals. The timing seems to work out. Am I right on this?

Your timing seems right, but this really confuses me, because hasn’t Trump been saying “13-week interview” for several weeks, maybe even since the beginning? That would mean that he knew ahead of time that there would be weeks when he would fire more than one person.

Well, even back in the first season, there was a time when two people were fired. Of course, back then, it only happened when Nick, Amy, Bill and Kwame went through the oral interviews with Trump’s henchmen. (Both Nick and Amy were dismissed at that point.)

There’s usually a (boring) retrospective and scenes-you’ve-never-seen show too. This season never had the right number of people for the number of episodes, so they might have planned all along to do a mass firing near the end anyway.

I only recall him saying “13-week interview” in the voiceovers, which can be edited in at any time. I believe the whole series is completed before the first episode is shown. They know the whole outcome and can edit the show however they like.

True, although the first season only had 14 episodes.

Considering how blatantly they dub in Trump’s voice sometimes, it’s clear that even when you’re watching his lips move, you’re not necessarily hearing what he said at that particular moment.

Originally posted by Diogenes

I think you got it in one. This season is pretty disappointing. Alla’s extremely good, but she’s so manipulative and it’s off-putting. They may as well call this the Randal show.

And nice wrestling reference, Mullinator. You were talking about JR, no?

Two things:

  1. This is the first time the teams have been unbalanced where the solution can’t be for the smaller team to grab Randall. Now what?
  2. I’m trying to remember what note-worthy things Randall has done…and pretty much blanking. Is it just that they spend most of the time showing us the losers, and Randall has mostly been on the winning teams? It seems my main image of him is standing slightly in the rear of a group, saying nothing and looking intelligent.

Which, don’t mistake, is a hell of a lot better than flapping your gums and looking stupid. But, still – clearly all of the other apprentices think he’s the best of them (going by the way they choose him) but what tasks has he been a stand out at?

Good point. He was PM on two winning tasks, the Tech Expo and the teaching thing.

But you’re right. The editing focuses on the losers, and we haven’t seen Randall’s specific skills. Except for his poise, ability to work on a team as both leader and follower, and excellent communication skills. Doesn’t seem like we’ve seen him handle conflict, but maybe that’s because people listen to him.

Yeah, apart from that, he pretty much sucks. :wink:

You’d have to add to that the implications of the fact that he is always the first person any team chooses when they have a choice. There has to be a reason for that. He also comes to the game with absurdly impressive academic credentials.

Plus we never hear any of the other candidates say a bad word about him and that’s a rare phenomenon on any reality show.

That’s puzzling, isn’t it? Why would he want to work for Trump?

That’s what my wife says. She thinks he’s too good for this show.