The Ballad of Buster Scruggs- new Netflix film by the Coens Spoilers possible- none in OP

I enoyed all the cowboy/western movie cliches. Including: (correct me if I’m wrong) in the final story, whenever the camera is on the Frenchman seated to Tyne Daly’s right, the clouds in the distance never change position or shape- they just get darker as the evening falls. Looks to me like the Coens intentionally made it look like clumsy old-fashioned rearscreen projection. The distant clouds are a static image, only the illumination changing, while the same randomly spaced trees keep going by over and over.

I’m not positive about this but hope I’m right. Love them Coens.

Pulp Westerns… extra pulpy. :D

The stories are well made, but I found them far too dark and depressing, except for the first one, which was fun. ★★☆☆☆

My problem with the last segment – if the passengers are all dead, what is the dead body? Just a prop?

I might have enjoyed the robber segment better if the punchlines had not been spoiled in the trailer.

Mummy. Because they’re all wrapped up they have to be carried into the afterlife. I imagine the two guys grumbling as they carry the body up the steps, “Frigging Egyptians. Why can’t they just leave the bodies in normal clothes so they can walk like everybody else.”

Pan shot? At least he wasn’t taking pot shots!  ;)
The original of the 5th story is

The Girl Who Got Rattled
by Stewart Edward White
The Century Magazine, July 1901

You can download the PDF here.

The Coen brothers have changed the story a bit, but the ending is the same.

I saw it last night and have been thinking about it a lot since then. I liked it a lot. I think I’m in the minority here in not liking the “Ballad” episode as much as the others. It was funny but the ending just got too silly for me. Some of Buster’s dialogue was really funny, and I appreciate that it was deliberately cartoonish, but I found the “erudite stranger befuddles the outlaws” trope a little tired.

I loved the crazy bank teller in the second story, and a day later I’m still chuckling about “pan shot!” for reasons I can’t explain. I also love the dimwitted James Franco character using his last words at his (first) hanging to complain that it was unfair that the old man used the pans for armor. I appreciated that the bank was in Tucumcari, were Col. Mortimer forces the train to stop in For a Few Dollars More.

“Meal Ticket” was quite disturbing. The Impresario and the Artist never spoke directly to each other, but the Impresario was caring and at times tender toward the Artist: the Impresario feeds the Artist first, hold him up to pee, and even helps him blow on his food too cool it down. How quickly human emotions change. For me, this was the most cynical and unsettling episode. The physical brutality was off screen, but we still witnessed the Artist’s caregiver turn on him over money, and smile while doing it. Oh, and I also thought the Impresario probably got scammed with the chicken.

The prospector story had what passes for a happy ending in the Cohen universe. I didn’t catch the detail about the wound still bleeding. That is pretty clever. While I liked it overall, I did think the prospector was a bit too spry for a old guy who had just been shot. But Tom Waits was great, and it was gorgeous to look at.

I knew “The Gal…” was going to end badly, but I didn’t expect it quite that way. I kept thinking Mr. Knapp was going to turn on her, and did like that they made him a really decent guy who promised to help Alice out even if she rejected his proposal. The bit where Alice is lost in a moment of innocent joy right before things go totally to shit was not unexpected. It was a short version of A Serious Man, where you think the suffering protagonist is about to make it out intact, but then, WHAMMO! I think because I saw it coming, more or less, it wasn’t that emotionally affecting for me. But the acting was great, and it was, like the other stories, beautifully shot.

I did not pick up on the death and afterlife symbolism of “Mortal Remains”, but this thread has made me think about that. I did pick up on the obviously fake building facades, but I just chalked it up to the filmmakers taking a shortcut. In retrospect, I’ve seen enough Cohen Brothers movies that I should have known they wouldn’t let something like that slip by without reason. Anyway, until reading this thread, I looked at “Mortal Remains” as a metaphor for movies themselves, which distract us with stories about ourselves – but not ourselves – while death sneaks up on us from behind. While the other passengers debate the nature of humanity, the bounty hunters know that it’s all a meaningless distraction, and the indifference of the world catches up to us all regardless of our philosophy. The passengers are afraid to go into the hotel with these two evangelists of a cold and absurd universe. Maybe the obviously fake buildings and matte painted sky are just meant to be hints that this story is a comment on movies.

I need to watch it again, if for no other reason than to see the “pan shot!” bit again.

London’s story ends, in my opinion, on a pessimistic note: the prospector overloads his first horse, who falls, overloads his second horse at his camp and then leaves behind his spare clothes and food to carry out the gold.

It may yet end poorly for the poor guy- nearly killed by another man’s greed, then possibly still dying because of his own.

Re: the Girl - interesting that her brother had called her wish-washy, but her one definitive, un-takebackable, very important choice was her undoing.

Anyway, I was hooked the moment one singing asshole took out another.

I thought ‘The Girl Who Got Rattled’ was going to end differently. I thought the girl was putting on an act, the helper who wanted the $400 was her lover, and the whole thing was a scam to get the trail rider to fall in love with her and pay off the helper. Then she’d kill him, and ride off with the helper. I guess I’m even darker than the Coens.

The other possibility I thought might happen was that everyone was sincere, but in the last scene as she’s about to kiss the cowboy she has to stop and cough…

I loved all the stories.

I had the same suspicions, but kept reminding myself “It’s the Coens, you never know what they might do.” Although as I just learned upthread, the story is very old.

It’s a nervous cough!

Seriously, that would have been a great ending too.

The wife hit the hay early last night, so I stayed up and watched this.

I absolutely loved it. Definitely one of my faves from the Coen Bros. It really stuck with me as I went to bed. I like movies that do that.

I’m gonna see if I can convince wifey to watch it with me this evening. We might skip Meal Ticket though, might be a little too distrurbing for her taste.

I don’t know. I don’t think the Coens are dark just for dark’s sake, and her being in on it would have been completely out of character in an unexpected way. The Coens do have stories that take you in unexpected directions, but looking back tend to seem inevitable. I’m thinking of the characters in Fargo as the “canonical” example, where the outcome was a direct consequence of the weakness and brutality on display already, even if I didn’t predict the details (not that I’m ever any good at predicting things in movies in advance).

The ending as it happened was in hindsight pretty well foreshadowed. I loved that all the main characters were completely honorable, pragmatic people with good instincts for understanding the world as it is but it wasn’t enough to save them. It really highlighted the tragedy. The “uncertainty” conversation really foreshadowed everything, and your “cough” ending would have worked from that perspective too, unless they did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vNJ5Krj7SQ. :wink:

But I liked (you know what I mean!) that the tragedy was by her own hand: a tough but completely pragmatic and sensible decision under the circumstances, with the layered uncertainty of the raid in the first place and the uncertainty of its outcome even at the end. Quite frankly I’d consider the traditional double-cross “twist” beneath the Coens at this point, and a cheap staple of less talented story tellers.

David Chen and Jeff Cannata discussed Buster Scruggs on a SlashFilmcast bonus episode podcast. It’s worth a listen

Caught this over the T-Day weekend break. Gotta say, it was pretty enjoyable, but reading this thread has made it even better.

I guess that’s the thing about the Coen brothers’ movies - rewatching them for things you might’ve missed the first time is just as much fun as the first viewing.

I agree! My wife and I really enjoyed the movie (movies?) and this thread has been great to help expand my understanding. We’ll also be rewatching in a month or so.

I started watching this last night and got sucked into watching the whole thing, staying up late to see the ending. As with any Coen film, it looks like this one will also require multiple viewings (which is a compliment to them). :slight_smile:

The one that stuck with me most was “The Gal…”. The most ironic thing I picked-up in that one was that it appeared the dog was “runnoft” :smiley: from the wagon train, but was supposed to have been put down - the guy warns that the dog may follow the train. The dog shows-up later, after we have invested emotionally in the future couple, only to play a part in the tragic ending. If the dog was shot, as was originally expected, it’s likely our couple would have seen a happier ending. The dog lives. I think all Coen movies have a small dog or cat, right?

The James Franco piece I felt was too short, but played the western clichés well enough. Reminded me a lot of the ending for “The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly”. As pointed out upthread, the irony being that he is not hung for the crime he committed but is for one he did not. I did not get the ending comment “That’s a pretty girl”, tho.

In The Meal Ticket, it was strange that the Artist never said a word other than when he was performing. I think the Liam Neeson character was scammed – he did not seem to take the chicken’s stage (which was somehow rigged to produce the desired outcomes), only the chicken. And where did he get the pocket of money to buy the chicken? (The Artist). The previous scene shows they made no money. I think the irony here is that he traded what could be considered a beautiful and valuable orator for a worthless chicken (which will end-up being his last meal).

I kept looking for a connection with the way some of the characters died – the bullet hole square in the forehead. I dunno.

I was waiting for the trademark use of the word “yon” in a Coen film, and Buster Scruggs said it right away.

Is it possible the body on top of the stagecoach in Mortal Remains was Buster Scruggs himself? I think they show the boots – I will have to see whose boots those may be.

This thread has pointed out a number of things I will enjoy looking for next time.

My interpretation was they had been making a living together for a while and had things pretty much perfected. But even though Liam had some money saved up, he saw the audiences for his show dwindling. So when he saw the chicken who could do math drawing a big crowd he assumed that would be his next big break. But yeah I think he was scammed. I’m guessing there was a hidden accomplice and somehow the chicken was being prompted which number to peck.

After re-watching all 6, The Mortal Remains is definitely my favorite. It’s the most clever and hits on so many different levels.

All Gold Canyon - I believe that what we see is the reality. The prospector does in fact survive to cash in on his find.

Near Algodones is entertaining at the first viewing, but not so much at the second. It’s nowhere near as engaging as the other 4 serious episodes.

Am I the only one wondering what the meal ticket was before the artist?

My take on the prospector surviving his bullet wound was based on the known type of bullet wound where it penetrates the skin, hits the bone but due to deficient speed/mass, gets deflected and tunnels under the skin atop the bone to exit elsewhere, or just stopping under the skin, leaving a bloody but superficial superficial wound.

Now this is seen more often with shots to the head, as the skull is a lot harder than ribs, but it can still happen with a bullet to the chest.