The Beguiled - Clint Eastwood style

Wife wanted to see The Beguiled with Colin Farrell, having not seen the original. I have seen the original but back in '71. So we watched it (the re-make) and she was in love with the dreamy gothic-ness of it.

Last night she proposed we watch the Eastwood version… Whoa! Does not hold up well, imho. I know things need to be held against their time (or should they?) but this was quite jarring.

First of all Clint kisses his 15 year old co-star on the mouth. Ka-ringy.

Then there’s the brother-sister incest stuff.

And when the the girls are working in the garden, they refer to it as “N-word work” (Not to mention referring to the actual black actor’s character as a “N-word”).

Maybe I’ve become a prude in my old age, IMDb gives the original a 7.1 score (the remake 6.3), but it was hard to stay in the film getting jarred out of it so often.

Creepy flick.

I wonder if the order you saw them in matters?

Possibly, but still that stuff doesn’t go down well for me in 2026, regardless.

Not that any of it was necessary for the plot, but the incest part seemed completely superfluous.

I remember it being a deliberately off-putting movie, but I only ever saw the censored version on A&E (which used to play it every other week, seemingly).

It seems to me that I tried to watch that years ago and was bored outta my mind and quit. Could be wrong. Was unaware there was a do-over.

Right..played it repeatedly for awhile.

I never liked that movie. Mostly bored.

And I generally like Clint movies.

I agree - boring. But the parts that weren’t boring were disturbing… and not in a good way.

It’s been a while since I’ve seen the Eastwood version, but isn’t it supposed to be disturbing?

I’m sure it was. But disturbing for the sake of being disturbing is not good cinema. Much like gratuitous sex or violence isn’t good.

It’s been a while since I’ve seen The Beguiled, but from from what I can remember, it’s biggest sin was that it bored the hell out of me. I myself don’t always have an easy time separating gratuitous from non-gratuitous sex and violence. Did those scenes advance the plot or tell you something about John’s character? It’s a disturbing story involving a lot of bad people trying to take advantage of one another.

I saw it on TV - I think a cut version - but on video later when I went through a bit of Clint binge. I felt that part of the intent was to inject ugly reality into what would, in some perspectives, be seen as a fairytale scenario - lone man with lots of women. It could have been completely sanitised and even given a happy ending, but instead they opted for a mix of 19th century reality and 20th century perspective on power and social norms. In that sense its probably a poorer attempt at myth-busting that he did so much better in the Unforgiven.

I did find it slow going on rewatching, and feeling a story idea was being padded beyond its inherent merit.

I’m cracking up inside from this Eastwood quote about the film (lifted from Wikipedia):

“Dustin Hoffman and Al Pacino play losers very well. But my audience like to be in there vicariously with a winner. That isn’t always popular with critics. My characters have sensitivity and vulnerabilities, but they’re still winners. I don’t pretend to understand losers.”

Dude, your character was murdered by school girls with toxic mushrooms! You weren’t the winner! You did get the participation trophy. And your character was a rapist.