James Madison was also the father of the Constitution. How is Ron Paul going to match that? And how is the NWO… which I think you also defined as the mainstream media and the Republican Party… the same as the British Empire?
The thing I find most amusing about that bit of rhetoric is that the most powerful “empire” at the moment - would be the US. So, let’s elect some guy President who’ll “go to war” on us!
By the way, Jackson did carry out his own personal War on Terror against the Native Americans.
More of a War FOR Terror actually.
Just jokin’ around. Since I’m at work, you could make the argument. But i get paid if I don’t post as well.
I mean the National Endowment for the Arts.
Jackson never supported a war on drugs as president. That makes him libertarian on that issue. etc.
Most presidents in the 1800s were libertarians, excepting maybe Lincoln, Grant and Benjamin Harrison.
That’s even worse. It was created in 1965.
Ron Paul will never be as great as James Madison, I agree with that. But he can still rise to the level of the lesser Founders.
I think the Trail of Tears pretty well disqualifies Jackson as a libertarian, much less a great president.
Jackson opposed the federal government subsidizing the arts. He also opposed putting figurines of Jesus into urine bottles.
Do you think Andrew Jackson is alive and living in a trailer with Elvis? Perhaps true believers see his face on pizza pies.
That time machine again?
This is an outright lie. From the outset of the war, Madison had ambassadors in London who were instructed to end the war if the Empire stopped kidnapping US sailors. Ambassador Russell was his name in the summer of 1812.
Jefferson and Madison had been negotiating with the British for almost 10 yeras prior to the War.
In 1806, the british fired shots at the Leander near new York, killing a man. In 1807, they again fored at the Chesepeak, killing three, injuring a dozen, kidnapping 21, and stealing the ship. Over this time period, the British seized 400 American vessel and kidnapped about 6000 to 7000 Americans.
I already listed about 40 battles where we beat the British on the other page.
Funny, where is James Madison on this list?
Or this one? Hint: look for him next to Andrew Jackson, in the “failures” section.
Well self-mocking is a better tactic than what’s been used to date, anyway!
The State governments did that, for the most part, not the federal government. John Marshall even ruled in favor of the Indians.
The problem here is democracy, not Jackson. Jackson did not represent the Indians because they didn’t vote.
Unlike today, Jackson never whipped up anti-Indian war propaganda while he was president.
Just as an FYI, you aren’t allowed to call other posters liars in this forum. That said, I generally agree more with your take on the war of 1812 than DT’s (no big surprise there). However, I fail to see why anyone would be an advocate for the War of 1812 (what does this even mean??), or how any of this has anything at all to do with Ron Paul and his chances of winning election in 2012.
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The State of Georgia was behind that.
Even if you oppose the trail of tears, it benefitted the average US citizen at the time.
One mistake does not make a rule.
Jackson’s first allegiance is to American citizens, not non-citizens.
You strike me as the type who doesn;t wanmt the Mexicans coming here over the border. Well, if you are of that mentality, then Jackson is your man.
Jackson’s whole family was killed by the evil British empire.
OK.