The big banks are not too big to fail

Everyone is familiar with the term, but what does it actually mean? I regularly read John Hussman’s weekly comment. He argues that the banks are far from TBTF. Some excerpts from one comment:

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Why should the public bail out the bondholders of financial institutions when the assets of these companies are far beyond what is needed to cover their liabilities to depositors and customers? The problem for banks, of course, is that they are leveraged, so even a drop of a few percent in their assets wipes out much of their own capital and threatens to make them insolvent. That should be a major concern for the lenders who have allowed the managements of those banks to leverage their bets with increasing lack of transparency (thanks to the FASB). But “failing” institutions can be restructured without any loss to depositors or counterparties. When banks become insolvent, my view is that receivership and restructuring is exactly what should happen, and swiftly.

Look at Bank of America’s balance sheet, for example. Reported assets are $2.261 trillion. Against that, liabilities to depositors amount to less than half that, at $1.038 trillion. Add in $239 billion for securities that they are obligated to repurchase, $129 billion in trading account and derivative liabilities, and $155 billion for accrued expenses. Now you’ve covered counterparties, as well as vendors or others who might have invoices outstanding. Even then, and you’re still only up to $1.561 trillion of the liabilities. The remaining 31% of Bank of America’s liabilities represent obligations to its own bondholders and equity of its own shareholders. This is well beyond what is sufficient to buffer any loss that the company might take on its assets, while still leaving customers and counterparties completely whole. To say that Bank of America can’t be allowed to “fail” is really simply to say that Bank of America’s bondholders can’t be allowed to experience a loss.

What “failure” really means is that bondholders lose money, and the operating part of the institution is taken into receivership, sold for the difference between assets and non-bondholder liabilities, and recapitalized under different ownership. Often the only thing that customers and depositors notice is that there is a new logo on top of their statements.
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Bolding mine.

He essentially argues that these institutions can absolutely be allowed to fail with no ill effects to depositors.

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My impression is that the scare-mongering of self-serving financial “experts” on Wall Street is shortly about to become deafening. It would be catastrophe, utter catastrophe, no, Armageddon, to let the global financial system collapse - collapse! - because the world as we know it will indeed collapse, as day follows night, if bondholders, who knowingly and voluntarily take risk and invest at a spread, are actually allowed to lose anything! We cannot, in a thinking society, allow losses to befall risk-takers who make reckless loans and bad investments. We must, must at all costs, divert money away from health, education, and welfare, in order to save these companies from failure, because neither health, nor education, nor welfare are even possible unless we save the financial system from unthinkable meltdown. We have no choice. No choice at all. They are too big to fail, and we cannot hesitate - they must be saved, for the sake of our children, for our children’s children, for our freedom, for the flag, and to honor the legacy of our forefathers, so that these Champions of Disfigured Capitalism can continue to do their vital work with impunity, unbound by any of the incentives or consequences that actually allow capitalism to work in practice.

To reiterate the observations of Sheila Bair, the outgoing head of the FDIC, in her discussion of the 2008-2009 crisis: “‘We were rarely consulted. They would bring me in after they’d made their decision on what needed to be done, and without giving me any information they would say, ‘You have to do this or the system will go down.’ If I heard that once, I heard it a thousand times. ‘Citi is systemic, you have to do this.’ No analysis, no meaningful discussion. It was very frustrating.’ … As she thinks back on it, Bair views her disagreements with her fellow regulators as a kind of high-stakes philosophical debate about the role of bondholders. Her perspective is that bondholders should take losses when an institution fails. When the F.D.I.C. shuts down a failing bank, the unsecured bondholders always absorb some of the losses. That is the essence of market discipline: if shareholders and bondholders know they are on the hook, they are far more likely to keep a close watch on management’s risk-taking.”
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Is this assessment accurate? Are people simply ignorant of the numbers behind the TBTF argument? What would be the ripple effects of allowing bondholders to take a loss?

Bank of America will not fail. Why?

Their liabilities and losses are primarily confined to the Countrywide unit they purchased in 2008. When they purchased Countrywide they retained a separate legal status for them. As a result Countrywide can file bankruptcy on its own and leave the bank holding company intact.

On the broader subject, TBTF originally meant that the FDIC was incapable of resolving the issue. When WaMu failed the FDIC merely paired them with JP Morgan. Obviously there are 7-10 banks that would not work for.

Today, the Dodd-Frank bill provides a remedy called Liquidation Authority. It would provide the equivalent of debtor-in-possession financing to wind down a TBTF. It remains untested, of course. but the idea is that bondholders would take appropriate haircuts.

Given Hussman’s assertion that the banks had/have more than enough assets on their balance sheets to prevent losses to counterparties and depositors, why were they unable to resolve the issue?

So at the time, the banks were deemed TBTF based on the fact that there didn’t exist regulatory structure to wind them down?

As I understand it, depositors are not the issue at all. Banks that primarily do banking are not TBTF, of course, and the depositors of big banks would still be protected by the FDIC.
Nor is the problem bondholders in the sense GM had bondholders. The problem is that banks loan each other money all the time, and some of this is included in the capitalization of the banks. If a major bank failed, or was likely to fail, no one would lend it any money, and it would then be sure to fail. A bank with significant money in this bank might have to stop lending until it increased its capitalization, and other banks would stop lending to it, and thus we get a chain reaction. A big problem in Europe now is not just Greece defaulting, but the exposure European banks holding Greek debt have.
This is not just theoretical - remember the impact of Lehman failing, and imagine what would have happened if the Fed and Treasury let the other banks go down also. Having ones deposits secured if no big help if the credit blockage got worse and the economy slide into a Depression.
I’m sure someone can do a better job explaining this, but basically he is looking in the wrong place to gauge the impact.

Hussman’s assessment of Citigroup balance sheet:

What are these obligations that you’re talking about that wouldn’t be covered by essentially hosing Citigroup bondholders?

What is Hussman driving at?

There won’t be another TARP and Citi/Bank of America are currently in good shape. They will be ready for Basel if needed.

I am suspicious of some naysayers who just root for bank failure from behind anonymous blogs (ZeroHedge and Naked Capitalism for example). There is a cottage gloom and doom blog business out there.

Regarding the comment on interbank loans - yes, that was a huge issue in the Credit Crisis of 2008. LIBOR went to an unheard of 5% then. No one trusted anyone else during the second half of 2008.

I guess you could say he’s quite fired up that public funds were used to fix problems amongst privately held institutions. And, had proper regulatory frameworks been in place, the losses could have been borne by investors in those institutions.

I’m trying to understand if the situation is as cut-and-dry as he makes it appear.

I agree Zerohedge, etc. are a joke. However, I wouldn’t lump Hussman in with that crowd. He manages close to $10 billion in his mutual funds. A market crash would definitely not align with his interests.

Then I agree with him. His numbers looked OK anyway.

TBTF was real and it was systemic. If the weakest at the time (Citi) had gone into resolution it would have been a widespread disaster for others. Then there is the problem of Citi’s vast overseas deposits.

My fear is that the crazy Republicans will overturn Dodd-Frank if they take the White House and lay the groundwork for another 2008.

twenty years ago, the top 10 banks controlled 10 percent of banking business. Now they control over 70 percent. They are so big, that if and when one goes down it would ripple through the economy. it would kill FDIC and we could not afford to pay for their damage. Normal bank liquidation would be impossible.

How were their assets valued in his model? One big problem then was that mortgage securities were worth a lot less in a liquidation situation than shown on the balance sheet, and that there were other assets for which there was no market. There there are the capitalization requirements I mentioned. And I already mentioned that interbank loans are very different from bonds. The whole system depends on liquidity of money between banks and between banks and the Fed. If that freezes up, as it almost did, we’re in big trouble.

I agree with your comment about proper regulatory frameworks - but they would have prevented the situation in the first place. When the banks got over-leveraged, there was not much they could do.