The cu*t word

”If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself."

two splinter boards? That’s the first I have heard of this. I know of one board (starts with G), but what is the other?

Mellophant. (As I understand the rules, t’s okay to say the names of other forums, just don’t start any board wars.)

There have been other splinter boards throughout the history of the Straight Dope as well.

Now I’m really curious about what happened.

I live in Melbourne Australia. Cunt is pretty commonly used - just not safe for office jobs or Legacy news media. Mostly used in place of ‘mate’ in a friendly way.
If a person is shouting at you cunt maybe not friendly.
In sports it seems fine to call other players cunt in nonfriendly way. But you can’t call someone‘adjective’ cunt. So can’t say blue cunt or green cunt or any other adjective then cunt.
Oh does anyone know Rhyming slang for BILLY HUNT.

Except it is acceptable to refer to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
As we discussed in the “qunt” thread that was linked to earlier, the vast majority talked about context. The tread got all tangled up over the word and its spelling and q-anon while we were all saying, “That’s not the issue. The issue is that it was used to insult a woman. How is that not a violation of the board’s policy against misogyny?!”

If I talk about a Grade A Under A (English) video where he says he calls his mates cunts but that ok because hes calls himself a cunt too, is that ok?
If I say that I’m going to Washington DC and if I see AOC or MTG and if I see them I’m going to yell out, “See You Next Tuesday!”, is that OK?

Is it, or does it depend on context? If I talk about Papa John being fired because his Board told him to stop being racist and he replied, “Colonel Sanders said N (but I spell it out) and no one said anything to him.”, is that OK? Disclaimer, people say Sanders was far from racist and never did use the N-word so Papa John was wrong.

If we say a guy got his panties in a twist, isn’t that misogynistic since it references him as a woman to insult him?

Not really, since that is just one version of a phrase that comes in several varieties: knickers in a twist, undies in a twist. But if you’d rather it be phrased “knickers in a twist” to make it clearer that it has exactly zero to do with the gender of the person feeling unjustified outrage, that’s okay by me.

Isn’t “knickers” British for panties? And I wasn’t calling you out for misogyny but rather putting out the question of when insulting a man by comparing him to a woman becomes a de minimis offense.

I’m not British, but having spent plenty of time in the company of Brits, it is my understanding that “knickers” are just “underwear” - not associated with a particular gender. I could be wrong, though.

I think the US has a unique approach to “bad” words.
Americans are unique in believing that not saying nnnnnn will make them less racist, that not saying cccc will make them less misogynistic. And then you go out and vote for Trump. The most racist, misogynistic man possible.

You’d be better off calling each other ccccs and nnnnnns.

You are wrong.

How could one ignore the context? Last time this thread came up, someone asked for, and I found, passages in Anaïs Nin’s diary where she refers to her “supercunt” in a sex-positive context. Nobody thinks she was trying to demean herself or insult women.

I’m about the least likely person to totally understand all this.
(I have had anesthesia early weds.
So bear with me.)

C___ and N_____ are ugly words.
I prefer to never hear them.
Especially if there’s some anger involved.
I cannot see where they are redeemable. At all.

Now, I’m in America.
If you live where this is normal, carry on. Your society will soon figure it out, I’m sure.

Mom hat
“If I hear that word again the soap will be in your mouth!”
Signed, Your Mother.

(If you can’t call your Mom those words, they are bad bad bad) ımo

What’s right, in terms of what actual British people mean by “knickers”?

Same as panties in you idiolect, probably

Knickers can be boys knee pants, too.

(Knickerbockers)

What does my idiolect* have to do with anything? In my idiolect, knickers are pretty much the same as what @Beckdawrek says - knee pants (though not limited to boys).

(FYI, the Brits I have known were at pains to explain to me why “Snickers” is a terrible and hilarious name for a candy bar in Great Britain. They said it was like naming a candy bar “Snunderpants” in the US. That’s where I get my unofficial understanding.)

*apparently, " the speech habits peculiar to a particular person."

I’m not talking about what knickers are to you, but what panties are to you.

I said idiolect not dialect because I’m aware you’ve lived in lots of different places with various English dialects. I wanted to reference what seemed the likely knicker-equivalent to you.

Well my initial understanding (and many people my age) came from the line in I Am the Walrus by the Beatles. Boy you’ve been a naughty girl you let your knickers down. It was something we never really heard desribed that way over here and it definitely meant panties.

People understood that knickerbockers were those short leggings type socks that little kids (mostly) wore in olden times, but knickers were panties. Right or wrong that is where IMHO knickers were defined for American culture.

More specific to the thread, knickers were understood to be c*nt coverings. :grin:

I agree that context always matters for determining if usage was unacceptable. It’s why I’m glad there are no bright line rules to force mods to sanction what should be uncontroversial use of a word.