The custodians are lying bastards (long and lame)

This is the third year I’ve been working at this school. Up until now, my blackboards have been cleaned on a pretty regular basis. This year, however, 8 weeks into the school year my board hasn’t been washed once. I put a note in the head custodian’s mailbox for my blackboard to be cleaned.

Well, they decided in addition to the blackboard, they’d wash the dry erase whiteboard too. Whatever they washed it with fucked it up to the point where now, it does not erase at all, even with chemical cleaners. It’s now completely unusable, but it’s half my instructional space and I used it daily.

This is a problem. I leave a note for the head custodian, no reply for 2 weeks, so I talk to my supervisor, the Assistant Principal. He comes down, sees what I mean, pages the custodians and shows them.

Right in my face, the custodian guy says, “That was never a dry erase board. She had that all covered up with paper until now. I have no idea what she’s talking about.” When I contradict him, he calls down two other janitors who back him up and insist that it never erased.

This is total fucking bullshit, and clearly he’s only saying it b/c he or one of his guys is responsible for ruining the whiteboard and they don’t want to own up to it. I have 20 students in my room who are going, “Umm, that’s the homework board! She uses it every day!” But the guy insists and looks at me like I’m crucifying his kitten.

Frankly, I don’t give a crap about the blame game, and I wasn’t pointing any fingers. I just need a surface to write on, hoped maybe it could be fixed? What can be done about this? The AP and the custodians leave, and about 10 minutes later, I go to talk to the AP in his office. As I turn the corner, I see that there are 3 custodians in his office and they’re in the middle of saying, “We have NO IDEA what she’s talking about. That board hasn’t been used in YEARS! It has NEVER been dry erase!”

Basically, these assholes are lying, and what’s really stupid is, the AP knows it b/c he’s in my room several times a year and knows it’s the homework board. Not to mention the myriad students who have seen me use the board and were voicing this fact during this conversation. Fortunately, the AP is not an idiot and knows exactly what’s going on, so these lying dicks didn’t actually get me in trouble, but I still don’t have the boards to write on, through no fault of my own, and now have apparently pissed off the entire custodial staff in the process.

Anyway, nothing gets done about any of this. AND, to make matters worse, the head custodian shows up the next day and says that I must have cleaned the board with the wrong stuff, OR I’m using the wrong markers. He actually makes me take out the marker and show him. When I do this and the marks don’t come off even with Windex, he falls back on this “it’s not a dry erase board anyway” when IT MOST DEFINITELY WAS before they cleaned it.

Then a memo comes out saying that the custodians are officially no longer washing whiteboards OR blackboards ever again and we have to do it ourselves from now on. This is somehow my fault, I guess. They’ve also decided that they only have to empty our trash cans once a week, even the rooms where kids eat lunch sometimes, even in science labs where organic material is dumped. Gross.

WTF? I realize they have a hard job, but you know, things are tough all over. I never asked for any of this. I just want my blackboard washed once a month whether it needs it or not. If I had known it was my job to do it, I’d have done it a long time ago and avoided this whole debacle. I never asked for my whiteboard to be washed and I didn’t ruin it-- I just want a place to write the homework! I can’t believe so many people would lie so flagrantly, right in my face, to my boss, in front of 20 witnesses who know they’re lying. And the retaliation has been murder. Again I say, WTF!

If you’ve read all of this, you deserve a medal. I just needed to vent my incredulous rage at all the fucking lying that I have witnessed, and that it all has somehow become a justification for them doing less work. And I do realize that I’m screwed now b/c the custodial staff hates me. :mad: All I wanted was a clean blackboard.

With the utmost respect, if it needed washing regardless of whether it was your job or not, I’d have done it myself if I were in your shoes. The kids come first, not job descriptions.

That does not mean the custodians are not being a bunch of clannish, arrogant pricks in the process.

Umm gang, it is not the teacher’s job to either wash the blackboard or the whiteboard. We do not have the appropriate chemicals or supplies. This is an administration problem. The janitors should be disciplined or fired, and if they strike, they should be replaced by those who want to work.

What next, if you want the floor cleaned in your room, you have to do it yourself? Want the toilets cleaned, do it yourself? :smack: Why have janitors at all, emptying the waste basket? that’s the easiest task of all.

Uh…I think it is the custodians’ job to clean blackboards, not the teachers. Teachers already have enough work to do on their own time they don’t get paid for. While they have a lot to clean, it’s not like a school is ever actually clean anyway - thee has been some disgustingly dirty Subway napkins and sludge on the floor of one of my classrooms for over a week. And if there is a board on the wall and it is white, it’s probably a dry-erase board. They’re not uncommon. All you really need to do to clean those is some water and paper towels for chrissake, maybe something noncorrosive like Windex. And them lying is just ridiculous. I’m sure they wouldn’t have to pay for a new dry erase board out of their pockets. A simple, “Sorry, I didn’t know [doing whatever they did to it] would ruin it” would have been fine.

And the fact that teachers now have to clean up their own classrooms and now possibly empty their own trash is retarted [unless they’ve got monstorous trashcans - students and teachers have a lot of stuff to throw away). All the teachers I’ve ever had encouraged us to use the trashcans (not leave crap all over the floor) because it’s easier for the custodians to empty trash than clean crap off the floor.

So I feel for you. It’s not you bitching about “Well that’s not my job,” it’s the custodians lying about doing theirs incorrectly. I’m not a custodian but I know how to identify and clean a dry-erase board properly. It’s not rocket science.

But the point is that it isn’t your job and it really shouldn’t be. Teachers have to spend enough of their free time grading papers, writing tests, doing lesson plans, etc. and they should not be expected to clean their own classrooms. Why even have custodians then?

I don’t disagree. However, given that we currently only have one side of the story and given that a memo was circulated ceasing the practice after just one unfortunate incident, I’d suggest that the custodians were long ago sick of the task and all the crap that went with it. Which is not to say that lying and covering for one another is acceptable. Far from it. Still, I would have been far more pro-active about washing the blackboard myself regardless.

I should note that every teacher I’ve ever known down here in Australia has cleaned their blackboards without questioning the practice since time immemorial. Clearly we’re dealing with different work cultures.

My mom went through this many moons ago. The custodian grieved it and was paid for the work even though he did not actually do it. It was his job to do it and therefore deserved to be paid for it.

At my school the custodial staff has never washed whiteboards without a specific request from the teacher. We all do it ourselves. The supply cabinet next door has ample supplies of cleaner and rags, and I always have a student who wants to suck up or a TA who needs something to do. Takes all of 5 minutes.

Of course, my room is always at the top of the list for special care. That’s because I know all the custodial staff by name, treat them like colleagues, and bring them (and the secretaries) cookies at Christmas. Screw the Administrators…I know who really runs the school! :smiley:

Former school custodian speaking here. Upstate NY. Job was to clean the classroom. Chalk boards got washed every night. Same with dry-erase/white boards. We must have used very gentle chemicals because nothing was ever damaged. Trash emptyed every night. Dry mop floors, straighten desks. Once a week windows cleaned. Not the hardest job I had.

Your custodians need a wake up call.

I read this:

and I’m like, “oh my god- the janitors have killed someone over it??!”

:smack:

When I was at school we students were rostered throughout the year, a week at a time, to stay behind after school had finished for the day and clean all of the blackboards.

It seems as though there are some products for reconditioning whiteboards. See if your AP will spring for some of this stuff.

Apparently car wax might also work, but I’d test it on a small section first.

I was just about to pipe in and say the same Cunctator.

Geez, when I was in Primary school, it was deemed an honour to be ‘Blackboard Monitor’, so that after every lesson, the Chosen One would have the priviledge of getting up with those old felt dusters and cleaning the board.

The best bit was getting out early to ‘clean’ them in the yard, when you’d chase your nemesis with a dirty duster and thwack them on the head or their newly dry-cleaned jumper and thus cover them in toxic chalk dust.

Ah, those were the days. :smiley:

Try a magic eraser on the whiteboard. I don’t know that it will get your surface back but it will get the marks off. I have used that when someone used indeleble marker on a whiteboard, or on my desks for that matter.

It looks like you may want to try what I suggested first to get the marks off and what Finagle suggested second to fix it.

I wouldn’t even begin to know what to use to clean the board. A rag and a bowl of water? I think I’d make a royal mess of it, plus I’d have to do it on my own time and buy my own supplies, since the custodians have ignored my request for a fucking sponge or bowl. Also, they have a machine for pounding the erasers, so why should I have to do that, with my massive sinus allergies, when they have the means to do it better and easier?

As for the whiteboards, they say the reconditioned them but it did nothing. I NEVER asked for them to be cleaned b/c I could clean them with a swipe of my hand before this.

I hate fucking liars too.

Back when I was teaching, I had very good luck with Quartet Re-Mark-Able conditioner/cleaner. It smells to high heaven (temporarily), but I restored some boards that you never thought could be brought back to life. I always got it at Staples, but I don’t see it on their online store.

They still make it, though. Here’s one source:
http://www.cleansweepsupply.com/pages/skugroup32412.html

Your custodians are supposed to provide you with contraception??
(d & r)

:smack: Me, too.

Rubystreak, your custodians sound like fuckheads.

Waah. They can probably get a job at McDonald’s if they don’t like the one they have.