Too many direct insults for my liking.
My wife and I have started watching again after a few months off. Not sure whether we or he have changed, but we appreciate his approach more. Still a lousy interviewer, tho (not that JS was any great shakes in that dept!) Appreciating several of the correspondents more as well. Many of his guests do not seem to skew towards our mid-50s, white demo.
We as not as loyal as we were to JS, but it is - at least - watchable in our opinions. A nice 23 minutes on DVR. We weren’t able to find any alternative we liked better.
He lost me early on when I noticed that some news clips I had watched directly on the news were edited to make the story completely different than what was actually reported. Then the jokes and commentary were made off the false narrative. I didn’t always agree with Jon Stewart but I never caught him being dishonest. He may have done it for all I know but I never saw it.
You must have hated, hated, hated Jon Stewart then.
I watched Stewart every night and have watched Noah every night since he came on and I am still not in love with Trevor Noah.
I don’t dislike the show but I don’t think it’s better by a longshot.
Since this I’ve seen when Jon Stewart came back on Colbert, and I have to say that, while Noah has improved, it’s night and day compared to seeing Stewart back. And that’s even with him being out of practice.
I also don’t see any downside to attacking Fox News.
Also, Loach, you’ve said this before, but I don’t remember you linking a video or even describing what happened. Without more information, I would wonder whether they did not think the edit changed anything, while you did.
I had more or less abandoned the Daily Show a while before Jon retired, more due to cord-cutting and convenience than any particular dissatisfaction with the show. This past week, I tried out Hulu and watched my first Trevor Noah episode. Riki Lindhome and Natasha Leggero were the guests.
Meh. Sorry, but meh.
I couldn’t get into Samantha Bee’s show either, nor Larry Wilmore’s, though I liked both of them a lot as Daily Show correspondents. It’s probably me, not them.
I don’t deify Jon Stewart, and think he made the right choice to retire, but purely measured on the LOL scale, the old Daily Show made me laugh out loud constantly, and I laughed exactly once during the Trevor Noah episode. Don’t even remember what his joke was.
I agree completely.
Jon Stewart took things too personally by the end and he was getting way too angry. Trevor brings an outsider’s perspective to US insanity which keeps him from getting so grouchy.
No it changed the entire point of the story. I didn’t think to keep links with the purpose of using it in future threads. I didn’t think of the SDMB at all. I just thought to myself that it was very dishonest and if Fox or any other network did it the ptichforks would be out. Something akin to the recent CNN issue where they edited the statement of the sister of the dead Milwaukee suspect to make it seem like she was calling for peace and calm when she went on to say that people should go and burn the suburbs. Partial reporting that changes the entire meaning of the story. I don’t much care if you believe me or not. The OP asked for opinions of the show with regards to Trevor Noah. My opinion is that on occasion he has used very dishonest editing to make his political points. I don’t remember seeing Stewart do that. If anything Stewart tried to cram in too much information by talking a mile a minute in order to give the big picture.
Jon had as many CNN clips as FOX clips. And his point was that we can expect politicians to lie to us - that is what they do - but the media has a sacred duty to show the truth. Noah doesn’t get that and doesn’t do it.
Now I’ve started watching more CNN during the election, I get more of what Jon was on about. Some Trump rep lies through his or her teeth and it is just another day. I suppose if any of these clowns got challenged they’d never come back and there would be no pointless cable news debates any more.
I figure it is like the great cartoon where the sworn enemies are actually good friends when they punch out after the day. In the green room one says to another “that was an awesome lie. I wish I could do that.”
I miss the cable coverage. I like the African perspective, though.
Not by the end, he didn’t. He had a need to engage them every time they mentioned him. He was positively Trumpian in that regard.
Exactly! Thanks.
Bumped.
Here’s PBS’s Breaking Big on how Noah got the job (it’ll be broadcoast on July 1): https://www.pbs.org/video/trevor-noah-tmzlyv/
That was excellent; thank you for the link, Elendil’s Heir.
There was a recent New York Times article that lumped Trevor Noah in with the rest of the white male late night talk show hosts when they were praising other black late night contributors which I found weird.
I’m with the OP; I loved Jon Stewart but Trevor at his best is funnier IMHO, yet explains some issues very well. I feel just as motivated to “do something” after watching Trevor as with Jon.
On the correspondents, they’re a mixed bag. Ronny Chieng’s tech roundups are great fun (even if his English is sometimes hard to follow), and jordan klepper had his moments (on his own show he’s more consistently on point…but has it been cancelled)? Roy wood jr is inconsistent, sometimes great sometimes phoning it in.
Noah has driven the show into the lake. Rarely watch. Hardly ever have a worthwhile guest on. Only a couple of the correspondents are funny.
Saying it’s a shadow of its former self is an insult to shadows.
Just wondering: do you like any of the late night shows?
Because I can understand people who prefer Jon Stewart’s version of the show.
But in terms of humor, I think it’s way above the likes of Jimmy Fallon, Samantha bee and to a lesser extent, Seth Meyer.
Colbert is closer, though he reuses many jokes / catchphrases now, so I’d put trevor over him too.
Only John Oliver is at the same level IMO.
Your second paragraph explains the reason Noah is more focused on politicians than the media. In the eras of Obama and Bush the media was the spectacle more often than not. With Trump he and his administration are the farce more than the media.