The Day of the Doctor Watch-along Thread (Open Spoilers)

I wanted to see the Nightmare Child and the rest of the Atrocities. Oh, well, maybe they’re still trapped with Gallifrey, and the next Doctor can take 'em on.

The line in The End of Time was “That’s what they were planning … in the final days of the war. I had to stop them.” After an exposition that along with Gallifrey coming through so would all the rest of the Hell of the war. End of Time sets up a reality that all of Gallifrey and the war is pocketed away, timelocked, not all killed by The Moment.

I think we are better off pretending that End of Time never happened than trying to make it fit. Yes, they are trying to throw us the Council was doing its own thing as a way to reconcile the storylines but it does not work. So just don’t think too hard; it suffers for it. They won’t reconcile the Valeyard either or the limited number of regenerations. We who enjoy the show just need to appreciate it for what it is and a fully formed internally consistent fantasy world it aint; a fun show it is.

I’d just be repeating what’s already been said if I posted anything here. But I will say that I loved the 50th, I loved the Davison short, and I love the series. I will be a fan forever.

Sort of. Day of the Doctor didn’t have commercials. Add them in, and you’ve got a two hour movie.

I recorded both the globalcast and the rebroadcast.

Me too - I was expecting something a big more… Lovecraftian, I suppose. We’re taking about a billion-year-old race with unrivaled mastery of space and time; you’d expect combat would involve something more than soldiers shooting machine guns at flying saucers. At least show us a fleet of combat TARDISes or something.

Yep. He’s seen but not heard. There’s a blink and you miss him moment around the 1:07 mark.

He was punting in Cambridge and couldn’t be retrieved from his timestream.

I’m happy to agree with your compromise. :cool:

The Doctor provided the technical information - but Sally faced up to the Angels, did all the running and provided the transcript.

In ‘The Day of the Doctor’, one Timelord did say “Haven’t we used everything?”, which was a reference to all their ‘weapons’.
Presumably the Nightmare Child is a Being, not a weapon?

Yes (thanks). I was going on the fact that neither McGann nor Eccleston has (that I’m aware of, anyway) appeared in any of the promo-documentaries in the past few years. Here in the US, at least, we’ve seen perhaps a dozen of these shows–one on the Companions, one on the Villains, various ones recapping particular seasons, and of course the 50th-anniversary-years specials on each Doctor. (And probably more that I’ve forgotten!)

I’m glad to learn that McGann has participated to the extent he has, acting in some of the 50th anniversary films (the one you mention, and Peter Davison’s film). But from the evidence of the documentaries, he doesn’t seem much interested in talking about his participation in the franchise.

(Not that he’s obliged to, of course!)

True - neither McGann nor Eccleston participated in their “Doctors Revisited” specials. I’m sorry there was such bad blood between Eccleston and the production team. But then The Day of The Doctor would have had a different plot if Nine had been involved - maybe the same ending but not how they got there

I hate it when that happens.

What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them? Heh…:smiley:

Wouldn’t even have to be prior to his death, as apparently it is now canon that some day the Doctor will revisit some of his old faces.

It wouldn’t be the first time…

But this was the very last day of the war after all had already been lost. The nightmare child, the could’ve-been-king and his army of neverweres, the degradations of skaros, etc. All that stuff already happened, it’s down to the last defenders of gallifrey shooting machine guns at flying saucers.

<snicker>

And I about go nuts wanting to grab the powers that be and shake them while informing them that they can have any of the last 3 or 4 doctors, and any of their companions back because if you ignore the annoying liking for story arc programming and go back to monster of the week programming YOU CAN DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY TIME TRAVEL. You are not locked into the next episode being Trendalore [or wherever and whenever] because you just pick up a quick visit by Rose and #9 [if you could lure him back] to Moscow in time for Napolean’s attempted visit. Or a family outing with River, the Ponds and the Doctor to one of London’s frozen Thames River Fairs.

I have a feeling that the whole reason John Hurt’s Doctor was created was because Eccleston did not want to be involved. I’m guessing the plot line was started with Nine in mind and then changed to be the new War Doctor (8.5?) because they couldn’t get Nine.

I think it worked well because it wasn’t about the galaxy-spanning space battles fought across dimensions by time commandos, it was terrified families fleeing gunfire in the streets: this part of the war it wasn’t vast and mythological, it was human - well, Gallifreyan - and personal.

So I DVR’d it and watched it today. The plot was good and I enjoyed it a lot. But they have to be careful about bringing in really good actors. John Hurt was just so much on a different level of acting it was jarring. Tennant is good enough to hold his own, but the new Doctor and the chick and the weekly extras just stood out as lightweights mugging for the camera.

And the one-on-one between Hurt and Piper were just excruciatingly out of balance.