Was there any opportunity for that to happen? I don’t think she was separated from everyone at any point after the TARDIS was landed, was she?
Wasn’t there a moment when she was walking down a hallway and we saw a shadow and a shriek?
Yes, and I noticed Osgood mentioning her better looking sister.
I’m hoping there is more to this.
Brian
Yeah, where “better looking” means “doesn’t wear giant glasses and lets her hair down” apparently. :rolleyes:
As retcons go, this is the best sort - I think it fits in seamlessly with The End of Time and what we’ve seen before.
Hurt!Doctor plans to destroy Gallifrey and the Daleks, ending the Time War. The Moment intervenes - instead of annihilating his people and the Daleks and time-locking it that way, he and the others push Gallifrey into a pocket universe.
But he doesn’t remember it that way, because of the out of synch timestreams, he remembers only his decision to murder everyone - which leads into the guilt worn heavily by Eccleston!Doctor and Tennant!Doctor.
The Gallifreyan High Council, meanwhile, had their own plans to destroy the universe and ascend - but foresee Gallifrey’s apparent destruction. So Rassilon prepares a contingency plan using the Master and the time vortex to try and ‘jump’ Gallifrey past the end of the Time War. Thanks to Tennant!Doctor and the Master, they fail - Gallifrey remains in the Timelocked state, where it meets its fate - not destruction, but removal.
The Tennant!Doctor, meanwhile, doesn’t remember his part in saving Gallifrey, nor do any of the other Doctors save Eleven, because of the out of synch timestreams. (Sure it’s technobabble, but hey…)
So everything we’ve seen in Doctor Who to this point remains valid, but Eleven can finally ditch the monstrous guilt that has burdened the Doctor up to this point, just in time for Capaldi!Doctor to step in.
Just rewatched it, and two things occurred to me:
First, in the episode “The Doctor’s Daughter”, he tells Donna that he’s had children before, and they died, which was one reason he didn’t want to get attached to Jenny. BTW, I’d like it for him to find out that she’s not really dead Maybe that’s another reason he’s so eager to find Gallifrey again. I’d assume they were adults, though.
Second, when the three Doctors are standing in the room with the Big Red Button, Ten says that they shouldn’t be there, that it should be time-locked. Eleven says that something’s letting them through. Then the weapon (I think it’s called the Moment, but I think of it as Bad Wolf) says, “Oh, you clever boys.” Okay, who calls the Doctor “clever boy”? The same person who’s scattered through his time line to help him: Clara, the impossible girl. I wonder if she’s somehow influencing Bad Wolf/Moment to make saving Gallifrey possible?
Head six was a robot intelligence who communicated to a main character in Battlestar Galactica. She appeared – visible and audible only to him, but not others, even carrying on conversations with him while others were around, perplexing them – taking the form of an attractive blonde that had previously had a romantic relationship with the character, and revealed things to the character that he didn’t know (and couldn’t have known), and otherwise manipulated him into taking actions that would save huge numbers of children and (at least more, if not completely) peacefully end a human-robot war.
I mean, change ‘previously’ to ‘will’ and that seems like it fits the Big Bomb (or whatever Piper character was called).
[OK, in the final episode one part of that turned out to be not true. But that’s still a good description of Head Six as perceived for most of the show]
Sorry, but that’s way too advanced for these writers: look at the ingenious plan they gave the Silence: kill the time traveler so he can’t interfere in their future plans. :smack: Never once occurred to anybody that his past may still be their future.
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. As brilliant as Hurt was, I think you still felt the absence of Ecclestone’s Doctor - yes, I know he had brief appearances but I felt he was needed as a character in the episode, like there was a space in it he should be filling.
As I said, his refusal makes me like him less, and that makes me like his doctor less, and that makes me REALLY dislike him, because I frigging loved his doctor, and he’s spoiled that for me.
What? I’m not overly emotionally invested. Not at all.
Indeed. I watched the show with a group of younger folks who have only a passing familiarity with the “classic” show. When I heard that inimitable voice, I started a slow clap, much to the bewilderment of the rest of the room. By the time he was sagely talking in circles, I was crying. By the end, most everyone had figured out who it was, with the exception of one couple in the corner. “Who was that?” the guy asked.
“Tom Baker,” said three of us in unison.
“Was he one of the old Doctors?” he asked again.
Various folks responded with “He was the fourth Doctor,” or “He was the one with the long scarf.” I couldn’t hold back. “He was the best,” I snarled.
I’d forgotten how much I missed that guy.
I love it!
As for Misnomer’s comment:
Just as an academic aside: Didn’t Moffat suggest at the end of Blink that ALL statues were actually Weeping Angels? (This was a feature of The Angels Take Manhattan, too.) Which would make the marble dust into ‘successful murder of some Angels by others’…which might contradict the rules established for them.
(Clearly I think about this too much!)
I don’t know if Moffat ever suggested it in an interview but I took the end of Blink as attempting to instill a fear that any statue could be a weeping angel, not that every statue is.
Fair enough. (He did a pretty good job in that attempt, though, didn’t he? :eek:)
At the sound of his voice, I looked at my (13-year-old) daughter and said, “Oh my God that’s Tom Baker.” And then I choked up…
The idea of Time Lord mooks is a little weird. Watching that opening war scene, consider the fact that every nameless soldier who gets blown up represents a loss of knowledge about the fundamental nature of time and space that makes Stephen Hawking look like a five year old.
And those were mostly the guys that didn’t have good college prospects after graduating from Gallifrey High.
Just back from the 3D Monday night showing–it was a blast, though I need to watch it again without a theatre full of people laughing at things and making me miss a line here and there. As with a few other people, I found that this recaptured much of the sense of fun and adventure that’ve been missing from Moffat’s run. And, hurrah, it had zero Angels in it. 
Having the Doctor encounter a working class Gallifreyan would be interesting. There had to be a TARDIS maintenance staff, right? I’d explore one of them being inside a TARDIS at the start of the Time War and being spirited off to a pocket universe for the duration then sent somewhere “safe” like Earth.
So there’s this working class Gallifreyan, who’s never been off planet before, suddenly alone on this strange world. Until the Doctor comes along.
Is every Gallifreyan a Time Lord? Because I would think all the good names would have been taken millennia ago, like screen names. “I am…The Janitor32588!”
I agree with this - but for god sake its No. 9 not 8.5… McGann regenerated into Hurt and he regenerated into Eccleston. So all the numbers move from 9, 10 & 11 to 10, 11 & 12 with Capaldi as 13. I’ve been as Doctor Who fan for over 40 years and am happy with this but the 8.5 thing gets me each time - no idea why.
Also the new expenation helps with the Dalek question aswell. When Eccleston first found a Dalek he was taken aback because he thought they were all time locked - then we had them in Manhattan, and even the Dalek Asylem - not forgetting the Bad Wolf Daleks. how then, if all the Daleks were time locked, could all these Daleks survive - This explination worked batter…
As a Smith episode it was great but as a 50th anniversary special it lacked - it only put the stuff about previous Doctors in at the last few minutes but they did that before when Smith first appeared. With the exception of the great Tom Baker - why no others… To me it was written as a NuWho story…
I love classic Who, but think about it…everyone’s ancient now (with the exception of McGann, and he appeared in the minisode). There’s no passing them off as being any age they actually were when they were the Doctor. Baker had a write-around (“revisiting old faces”), but you can’t do that with all four.
Besides, I’d judge The Five(ish) Doctor Reboot to be much more satisfying and fun than trying to cram Davison, Colin Baker and McCoy into Day of the Doctor.