No vote on a BBA unless the committie can’t find cuts, no cuts in Medicare/Social Security/Medicaid. And BBA is not something bizarre or crazy or unique: it already exists in 49 of the 50 states.
Incidentally FreeRepublic is not happy about the deal… http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2756750/posts
Boehner in conference call: “We stuck together” & made Obama give up on both a “clean” debt limit hike & his “balanced approach.”
So, what is the possibility/scenario of having this Super Congress induce some sort of revenue increases down the road? Should I have any faith that Obama is somehow running some grand chess move?
I don’t know, anymore. Maybe tomorrow I’ll be able to think, but right now I just feel sold down the river.
Cite?
Qin, this has already been debunked in other threads. BBA in name but not reality doesn’t exist in many of your examples.
I’m not seeing much of a compromise but Obama has surprised us before on the upside (eg, his December moves taken as a group were decent).
Actually if the Democrats were smart they might decide to accept a BBA in name only if only to get the Tea Partiers to shut up.
Nothing will get the Tea Partiers to shut up.
They remind me of Dudley, Harry Potter’s cousin. No matter what he had, he always screamed for more.
Well the US dollar has dropped in the last 12 hours since this broke. Do the Republicans have any idea at all that they don’t control the global financial markets? and that those markets will beat the US down severely in the long term?
Cutting spending in a recession, no infrastructure spending to address key failures that have been building for years, you guys have been sold. Hope it will feel good to be the new Mexicans of the global market.
Yeah. “I told you so” never felt so bad. God, what a mess.
On the bright side, that’s really not a bad thing when you owe $14 trillion.
Well, then I guess a new Council of Seers will have to be elected, since their prophecy was not fulfilled…
Indeed.
I think this highlights one of the major failings of Congress today. Nevermind facts. Nevermind a group dedicated to finding a rational solution.
Create a group as a PR too then utterly ignore them.
If such people were working in a company they’d have been fired for cause long ago.
$900 B in cuts, many of which were going to happen anway, plus a re-vote by Dec 23 of this year? Am I reading that right?
For those lefties here who think the Dems surrendered, here’s the quote from yahoo news story about it:
PS Mace: not just another committee - actually made up of congresspeople this time. That, and the triggers will make a difference (I hope)
Pending final passage of what I’ve only heard discussed in the media, I’ll claim victory for predicting the outcome.
This will make it very difficult for me to vote for Obama, etiher of my two democratic senators or my democratic representative.
It looks to me that they gave up every major point and got nothing except avoiding default.
Yes. It seems that nobody is happy with this deal. That’s why it is the one that will pass. 
For everyone that says that Cut, Cap, and Balance or a vote on the BBA never had a chance anyways, well neither did tax increases in the House. That’s why in a compromise all of that has to be on the table.
If the Dems had pressed for tax increases (like so many posters here want them to do) then they would have risked default because they KNOW it won’t pass the House. Why act like little children? Grow up and be responsible and don’t let us default over your insistence on a tax hike! (Feels good to say that back. :))
Don’t I get points for predicting the outcome of the GOP winning a who-blinks-first contest against Dems who’ll realize they need to cut a deal to avoid default, at which point the GOP can haggle to get closer to 100% while Obama concedes his brains out?
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Come on, get it through your head. To these douchebags, pretty much any compromise qualifies as “a complete victory for liberals.”