The Empire Strikes Back

Oh, the extended universe. I stand corrected. :stuck_out_tongue:

Not to get nitpicky (or, to put it another way, to be nitpicky), Captain Needa commanded the Star Destroyer Avenger, which lost Millenium Falcon after the asteroid scene. Admiral Ozzel was killed (or merely choked) because he let the rebels on Hoth detect the fleet too early.

I’d like to address the complaint that RotJ recycled the ending from the first Star Wars. I can’t deny that it’s the same (with a twist), but there could be an explanation. Lucas says he wanted to do a vast space opera, but only had money for a short movie. So he condensed the action and essentially presented Act I of the large story as the first (and so far as he knew, only) episode of the saga. I imagine that the Death Star attack may have been swiped from the end of the “trilogy” and borrowed as a boffo climax for the first part.

I’m guessing that the reason for the change was that after the infamous Holiday Special nobody wanted to see more than one Wookiee at any given time ever again. :wink:

Exactly. If Malla, Lumpy, or Itchy had shown up at any point in ROTJ, I would have been outta there so fast…:smiley:

Please tell me about the “infamous holiday special.” I do not know this story.

TheeGrumpy, I had never considered that as the reason the two movies end the same way. I suppose it is an acceptable excuse, more or less. Although I then find it even more unforgivable that cutesy-wootsy little Anakin “Gee-whiz” Skywalker is written to end Phantom Menace in pretty much the same way. Lucas is asleep on the job, aside from sleeping on a huge pile of everyone’s money.

Dammit. Dammitdammitdammit. I wrote Ozzel the first time around, then started second guessing myself and changed it to Needa. Just like the SATs, always go with your first guess!

The Ewoks did look small, cute and cuddly, yes.

But so do yearling bear cubs, and they can do serious damage to people. Hell, a 100 pound mastiff is a serious threat. I can only imagine a bear’s musculature, combined with prehensile ability to grasp and use weapons, would easily constitute a threat to people, even people in Imperial battle armor.

At the Star Wars The Magic of Myth I read that ‘going into a cave’ is a common mythological element that Lucas was employing. The character(s) go into a cave and undergo a change or gain a new perspective. In this case Han and Leia start to have tender feelings for each other in the cave.

I always thought “how does something grow to be so large and live on an asteroid?” and “My that looks like a giant sock puppet.”

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Because it had Lawrence Kasdan writing the screenplay. A quick peek at his CV at IMDB shows why.
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With all due respect, dude, that’s a mixed blessing at best:

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Oy, vey. Let’s try that again, shall we?

With all due respect, dude, that’s a mixed blessing at best:

:slight_smile:

Not so long ago, in a place not very far away, a fun little sci-fi spaghetti western by the name of Star Wars ignited the population’s wallets. The market reacted quickly by upping merchandise–all of which is well-remembered, mostly to the tune of foreheads being smacked to the beat of Why Oh Why Did I Let Mom Take My Collection To Goodwill–and by trying different things, which were forgotten almost immediately in a sort of psychological denial.

One of those things was the CBS Star Wars Holiday Special. It was the touching story of Chewbacca’s family–consisting of Mala, his wife; Lumpy, his dad; and Itchy, his indeterminate sprog–waiting anxiously for Chewie to get back to WookieWorld for Lifeday.

The wookies lived in houses very far up in trees (sounding familiar?). Unlike Ewoks, their dwellings were rendered in painfully bad matte paintings. They spent a lot of time talking with each other. Now, by “talking” I mean “yowling”–you know how Chewie communicated. Now picture three of him, only with more annoying “voices” and worse costumes, howling at each other. Subtitle-free, of course. Occasionally, Harvey Corman would wander through and provide something like comic relief, only completely the opposite–not funny, and not relieving. Sort of like thumbscrews that just keep tightening.

Being a late-70’s TV “special,” it was chock-full of musical numbers. One notable one involved Bea Arthur as a Tattooine bartender, singing like a tortured chain-smoking cat with the effect of clearing out the bar (realistic enough). Another involved Lumpy putting on some sort of virtual reality gig, and getting a little bit Too Excited at whatever late 70’s act that my memory’s blocking out right now.

There was a brief cartoon, drawn at maybe 5 frames a second that didn’t quite match with each other, that marks the historic introduction of Boba Fett

The cast of Star Wars actually “starred” in it, for cameos. Harrison Ford was lightly drunk and intensely bored; Mark Hamill was wearing more and worse make-up than Tammy Faye; Carrie Fisher was very clearly, very very very deeply stoned.

There are any number of tapes of it floating around on ebay at any given time. It’s worth watching, particularly in the presence of big Star Wars fans who’d never even heard of it before, to watch their brains implode.

And plus, since it bears the official Star Wars logo, that which is contained therein is canon.

I highly recommend seeking out a copy. It’s one of the main reasons why Episode 1’s flaws neither particularly surprised me or enraged me to the extent it did others.

I have a copy of that special, and it’s hilarious, although I think I’ve only been able to sit through it once it is so brutally awful.

Here’s a link to a Salon article which pretty much sums it up. There was also a recent thread about it, but search isn’t working for me right now…

To be a tad fair to the Star Wars Christmas Special, I believe Mark Hamill was borrowing Tammy Faye Bakker’s makeup kit because he was trying to hide a nasty scar from a recent auto accident at the time.

But Carrie Fisher was stoned. This was especially obvious when she started singing the Lifeday anthem near the end (to the tune of the Star Wars theme music, no less).

The Salon article on the Holiday Special has given me a wonderful, wonderful new .sig.

Sounds like symptoms of something he’d really want cleared up, doesn’t it, RickJay?